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# 1 Is the T5 Armitage worth $25 ?
06-19-2012, 05:58 AM
I was very excited like everyone else to see a T5 Akira Class refit hit the game, but I wanted to wait to see what everyone had to say about it. Well it doesn't sound that great. For a $25 ship what extra do you get ?
1. New Akira 2409 skin.
2. New Console, which I'm hearing isn't that great. I was told it does 40 dps.
3. 1 Hangar Bay, really. the ship is almost the size of a Sovy, it only has room for 1 Hangar Bay ?
4. It has the same Hull as the Defiant Refit, 30K, how did the Devs figure that one out when the Akira is way bigger then the Defiant ? CaptGejo did list the ship at 36K Hull in the beginning then changed it to 30K. 36K would have made more sense because as I said it almost as big as a Sovy which has 39K Hull.
So for the few "new" things you get with it, I'm not spending my hard earned C-Store points on it, I'll keep flying my Defiant Refit, I rather buy the DS9 Defiant Interior package. Which also makes my worry what "little" we will get with the "Sovy Refit" when it is release which I also was and everyone waiting for ?
That's my 2 cents on this.
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# 2
06-19-2012, 06:10 AM
About 1 hangar and the 30k hull is probably for balance issues, don't forget that is an escort. An escort with the hull of a crusier and the hangars of a carrier = ultimate OP ship

The ships seems to handle fine for pve and pvp, i personaly think that none ship worth 25U$S (u can get full games for that price in steam...) but is a good ship.
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# 3
06-19-2012, 07:00 AM
Honestly, I love my T5 more than my Defiant-R, and the Defiant is my favorite ST ship of all time.

The Naomi Armitage class is superior to the Defiant in many ways and equal to it in others. The only thing it doesn't have on the Defiant is the turn rate, at 15 but you don't really notice it that much when flying it. It turns just like an MVAM.

The Torpedo PDS is a great little gadget to play around with, especially when coupled with the original PDS. I'm currently using CSV2, TS3, PDS, and TPDS when I want to wreck a bunch of things all at once in an STF or Fleet mission. DPS on the TPDS is nominal because it has a 3 minute refresh. But when you fire that puppy, it can really do some damage. 6 torps at 1977 per target (base, can be increased with consoles, I currently do 2799 per torp with 2 torpedo consoles) up to 12 targets simultaneously.

Sure it can draw all of the aggro in the game, but that just comes with being an escort anyways, and you have to use it wisely. Like when a bunch of nanite spheres or probes get bunched together with Gravity well, popping them with CSV2 to shred their shields then using TPDS on them is like watching a crap ton of fireworks going off. The splash damage alone from that volley is enough to kill probes easily.

You get a single hanger, but can have up to 6 fighters out at one time, or 6 runabouts. Each of them with tractors and chroniton torpedoes, which anyone will tell you is BS in PVP because you can't counter chronitons and each runabout has 18k hull. The Advanced Peregrine fighters are great little damage monsters also. Keep in mind that to have hangers on other ships, your turn rate was that of Lunar orbit.

The hull is 30k because it's an escort, and it needs to be balanced as playhard stated. If it had 36k hull, that would equal to around 50k in the hands of a VA after bonuses, far too much. Keep in mind it also has a LTC Engineering Boff slot, which can house Aux to structural 2, which is an outstanding hull heal for an escort.

Size in STO is nothing more than aesthetic based, it has no bearing on the actual abilities of the ship itself.
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# 4
06-19-2012, 07:02 AM
I bought it and I like it. So I suppose it was worth my, well I don't now, I am from Europe and paid with Euros (still worth something)

I am a free players so I don't mind paying for something', something that I like, want to have. I am an escorts nut. I already had the thunderchild so I have both consoles. Have to say that buying a low tier ship is a bit of a waste. With the fast leveling you will use it probably one afternoon. Now with this baby everything falls into the right place for me.
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# 5
06-19-2012, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by blueamdgamer View Post
I was very excited like everyone else to see a T5 Akira Class refit hit the game, but I wanted to wait to see what everyone had to say about it. Well it doesn't sound that great. For a $25 ship what extra do you get ?
1. New Akira 2409 skin.
2. New Console, which I'm hearing isn't that great. I was told it does 40 dps.
3. 1 Hangar Bay, really. the ship is almost the size of a Sovy, it only has room for 1 Hangar Bay ?
4. It has the same Hull as the Defiant Refit, 30K, how did the Devs figure that one out when the Akira is way bigger then the Defiant ? CaptGejo did list the ship at 36K Hull in the beginning then changed it to 30K. 36K would have made more sense because as I said it almost as big as a Sovy which has 39K Hull.
So for the few "new" things you get with it, I'm not spending my hard earned C-Store points on it, I'll keep flying my Defiant Refit, I rather buy the DS9 Defiant Interior package. Which also makes my worry what "little" we will get with the "Sovy Refit" when it is release which I also was and everyone waiting for ?
That's my 2 cents on this.
1. The skin isn't bad, but it's not a selling point to me.
2. 3m cooldown isn't ever going to give you good DPS on a Console. But it's burst I don't know how many torps are fired but each is worth around 2k Damage.
3. 1 More Hanger bay than any other Escort in the game. Also it's size is made up of two long pylons. I don't think there is a lot of space in there like a Sovereign would have. Also scale is out in this game.
4. It has the same Hull as any Fed Escort. The 36k was a typo and corrected very quick.

If you don't think it's worth the money don't buy it. Many people have and seem to enjoy it. It did ruin the MVAE for me but.
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# 6 reply
06-19-2012, 11:53 PM
yes . i got it on day one and i loaded it with quad cannons a mr12 dhc and a dual beam bank plus mr 12 quantums rear a rapid fire trans phasic and 2 mrk 12 turrets
2 different point defenses plus a hanger bay with advanced perirines. she is sweat on elite stfs i can solo cubes with her. i recommend her whole heartedly.
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# 7
06-20-2012, 12:06 AM
Are ANY of the T5 ships worth $25? No. They might have some cool console but that's about it. No console is worth $25. Other than the console, there's little if anything that you can't do with another ship of the same class. So you're paying $25 for a fancy console and a ship costume.
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# 8
06-19-2012, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by blueamdgamer View Post
Is the T5 Armitage worth $25 ?

It is if you want to play it.
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