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What is it with the guys in cruisers that happily sit back and wait for escorts (either faction) to get aggro.

It's starting to drive me to rage, dosnt seem to matter if its STF's or Borg encounters they kick back and wait for the escorts to go in first.

Now I tested this because I thought there was a prob in game with aggro control, but no on a tac cap in Bortasque and and Oddy (obviously I used diff toons) I have no prob taking and keeping aggro and surviving long enough to kill the objective.

So again what is the problem with taking and keeping aggro, is it the paint job you dont want to scratch or what, I have to ask I am genuinly curious.
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# 2
06-26-2012, 05:45 PM
I haven't noticed this, at least not in the manner described. Normally the escorts zoom in first. I will head in then slow down to get my power back up or use a battery so when I engage I am at full power but usually I am right behind the escort. I am not sure if that is what you mean.
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# 3
06-26-2012, 05:47 PM
Some people just don't play aggressively. They want to stand back and cast magic missile.
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# 4
06-26-2012, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sovereignman View Post
Some people just don't play aggressively. They want to stand back and cast magic missile.
Or little red fireballs :tongue:
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# 5
06-26-2012, 07:29 PM
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Or little red fireballs :tongue:
Or sing as a bard.

Or in game terms, complain about everything
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# 6
06-26-2012, 08:43 PM
Still havnt STFd once.

For Borg encounters, I have no problem taking the Zorro and leading the way, I just want to make sure the fleet follows me. I first go after the next closest cube thats ALONE, not sitting close to another one or two cubes.

The only time I back off at Starbase 24 is when we are about to get the first 50 ships killed. I full impulse it back to starting position before Im surrounded by 30 ships that all decloaked on us. I'll wait for the others to eventually die, respawn, then together pick them off from the edge as you are supposed to.

But when you see the USS Zorro, or my female toon flying the USS Veracruz D (Sovy), we are all up in that mess and dont let escorts do our killing for us.
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# 7
06-26-2012, 05:50 PM
I noticed this too, I use mirror to lvl and I fly escorts/bops to bring as much dps as I can to get them done faster.

Time and time again I have seen cruisers hanging back. I have on occasion seen escorts/raptors/BoPs zooming foreward into mobs which is dumb on their part. The one thing that also bugs me is that cruisers tend to keep heals for themselves, there have been times when my hull was sitting at 10% and the cruiser at 70% hull heals itself instead of helping a team mate.

It annoys me that people cant't learn the strength of their ships, how to play a role in a team action and generally ignorance to team mates in pugs.

Now lets all wait for Sollvax to post if he hasn't already by my time of hitting post reply.
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# 8
06-26-2012, 05:55 PM
I personally don't hold back on STF's, just keep in mind that I might not be as fast as an escort.

Red Alerts -- sometimes I hold back until I figure out where everyone is headed.

As far as holding back on heals -- I tend to primarily run as a self-healing tank, not a healboat, but I'll throw out an Engineering team or hazard emitters from time to time. I do have 6 points threat control, but that's just so sollvax can rage and tell me I'm doing it wrong.
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# 9
06-26-2012, 06:04 PM
the only time ive ever' hung back' is to get into broadside position , from there its pew pew pew
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# 10
06-26-2012, 06:59 PM
I never deliberately hold back when I fly a cruiser, however is it the cruiser holding back or the escorts not even trying to stay behind the cruiser?

People zone at different rates, at least some of the time the cruiser will come in slightly after the escorts. I see the equivalent in fantasy games such as EQ... dps engaging before the tank has agro....likely a similar issue. Give the cruiser an extra couple seconds to draw agro.
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