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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 1 Fleet Ships
08-02-2012, 09:03 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I like the idea of replacing my favorite ship with a ship I don't want. I looked at the list of Fleet Ships that are avialable and I am not too excited. My favorite ship is the Galaxy Dreadnought and I have have it tuned as best as I can get it. Why aren't there a tier 5 Fleet Dreadnought? I don't want another Odyssey, I don't want the Intrepid, or the Fleet Heavy Cruiser escort(Akira), either. I like the fact that they finally beefed up the Galaxy but why is it a tier 4? Why give it more engineering console slots, when it's shortfall is not in engineering but in tactical? The ship lacks in DPS so it needs weapon boosting.

I don't want to waste my money on ships that look tha same as i already have. Maybe the Devs need to add more variety to the Fleet ships. I would only be intetrested if the come up with a tier 5 Fleet Dread. Then I can replace my current Dread with an upgraded version of it.
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# 2
08-02-2012, 11:02 PM
Yep, and just glacing at the KDF side they definately got more Cruiser Love then Fed for sure. The Vorcha looks amazing. Then again, I fly the Kar'Fi over there, with no FLeet version also so I don't plan on getting any Fleet ships over there.

I did buy the Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retro. Love the Fleet skin, Shiny....Love the looks of the ship.....But, It's $20 wasted for a lesser Cruiser then whats already available. No +10% going on there. I was weak and bought it, had fun for a few days. I mean it looks amazing. Look at my sig. Awesome ship. But, No reason to own it.

Back in the Dreadnought Myself, I plan to buy the Venture Skin finally, I'll pretend thats my fleet version. lol. Been wanting the Venture Skin ever since I got the Dreadnought Eons ago, but I keep Buying the newest shiny over and over. I'm done now. lol

Seriously, other then the Defiant and 1-2 others, the FLeet ships are kinda a Joke. For the kind of grind,PLUS being only 1 Character Unlocks they need a serious boost.

Aquarious "Destroyer"? Nuff said. And I soooooooo want to like that ship....sigh.
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 3
08-03-2012, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by synthiasuicide View Post
Yep, and just glacing at the KDF side they definately got more Cruiser Love then Fed for sure. The Vorcha looks amazing. Then again, I fly the Kar'Fi over there, with no FLeet version also so I don't plan on getting any Fleet ships over there.

I did buy the Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retro. Love the Fleet skin, Shiny....Love the looks of the ship.....But, It's $20 wasted for a lesser Cruiser then whats already available. No +10% going on there. I was weak and bought it, had fun for a few days. I mean it looks amazing. Look at my sig. Awesome ship. But, No reason to own it.

Back in the Dreadnought Myself, I plan to buy the Venture Skin finally, I'll pretend thats my fleet version. lol. Been wanting the Venture Skin ever since I got the Dreadnought Eons ago, but I keep Buying the newest shiny over and over. I'm done now. lol

Seriously, other then the Defiant and 1-2 others, the FLeet ships are kinda a Joke. For the kind of grind,PLUS being only 1 Character Unlocks they need a serious boost.

Aquarious "Destroyer"? Nuff said. And I soooooooo want to like that ship....sigh.
Yeah, KDF got the Vorcha. . .but that's about it for noteworthy ships, other than maybe that scourge refit and 1-2 others. The BoPs are a joke, and not worth the time and money that goes into getting them.
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# 4
08-03-2012, 12:11 AM
Huh? There are plenty of good ships. I'm looking forward to the Fleet MVAE and HEC. Both are minor improvements over the C-Store versions.
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# 5
08-03-2012, 12:38 AM
Great now the world is going to end.

I agree with alexindcobra, if you are happy in a Galaxy Dreadnought there is no reason to buy a Fleet Ship. I feel the Fleet ships have been handled really badly.

@synthiasuicide, I'm thinking I may get the non-fleet version of the Heavy Cruiser Retrofit, but at the moment I prefer my beloved Sovereign to it for tanking, may try a less practical more fun build on it.

Although I will say there is a reason to own the Fleet Advanced (MVAE) the Fleet Heavy Escort Carrier (Armitage) and the Fleet Tactical Escort (Defiant) especially if you already own the T5 version as it's such a cheap upgrade. I'll go so far to say that if you own a T5 version of the ship and can get the Fleet version for a single FSM, it could be worth farming the Dilitium and converting it to Zen to do.

But yeah most of the other ships are a joke. KDF is just awful, I can get the ships I want Fed side for a single FSM because I own the T5 versions. Not 1 KDF Fleet ship gets a Discount.

The Fleet Exploration Cruiser (Galaxy) is a T5. It has the same BOFF layout that people have been complaining about forever, which could be fixed by making the Ensign Universal. I'm not a fan of the Universal BOFFs but on some ships they just work. And I think a Universal Ensign would work on the Fleet Exploration Cruiser as well it does on the Fleet Patrol Escort.
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# 6
08-03-2012, 06:15 AM
One thing is for sure...this are not the only fleet ships that will be implemented in the game. Just be patient and give it some time.

i think there will be a fleet ship for everyone. 3 of the ships i want to buy are not in the shipyard yet...but they will be in time. I'm positive about that.

the assault cruiser retrofit is a perfect example: it was seen on tribble...but before it is on holodeck they will bring the retrofit version to the zen store.
maybe same goes for the long awaited galaxy bundle...first we will se it in z-store...then as a fleet ship option.
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# 7
08-03-2012, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dknight0001 View Post
Great now the world is going to end.

I agree with alexindcobra, if you are happy in a Galaxy Dreadnought there is no reason to buy a Fleet Ship. I feel the Fleet ships have been handled really badly.

@synthiasuicide, I'm thinking I may get the non-fleet version of the Heavy Cruiser Retrofit, but at the moment I prefer my beloved Sovereign to it for tanking, may try a less practical more fun build on it.

Although I will say there is a reason to own the Fleet Advanced (MVAE) the Fleet Heavy Escort Carrier (Armitage) and the Fleet Tactical Escort (Defiant) especially if you already own the T5 version as it's such a cheap upgrade. I'll go so far to say that if you own a T5 version of the ship and can get the Fleet version for a single FSM, it could be worth farming the Dilitium and converting it to Zen to do.

But yeah most of the other ships are a joke. KDF is just awful, I can get the ships I want Fed side for a single FSM because I own the T5 versions. Not 1 KDF Fleet ship gets a Discount.

The Fleet Exploration Cruiser (Galaxy) is a T5. It has the same BOFF layout that people have been complaining about forever, which could be fixed by making the Ensign Universal. I'm not a fan of the Universal BOFFs but on some ships they just work. And I think a Universal Ensign would work on the Fleet Exploration Cruiser as well it does on the Fleet Patrol Escort.
Look at the Fleet Galaxy again, its listed as a T4. It also says so on the STO homepage.
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# 8
08-03-2012, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by lordcorrino View Post
Huh? There are plenty of good ships. I'm looking forward to the Fleet MVAE and HEC. Both are minor improvements over the C-Store versions.
Actually its looking like the ONLY fleet ships worth getting are the ones that do have a C-Store counterpart. Not sure what they were thinking on the rest of the designs. Not since I believe deep down they want to make money. lol

The Armitage already felt like +1, and it gets fleet upgrade? lol. And thats sorta the problem. Either make them all worthy or dont bother.
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# 9
08-04-2012, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by travelingmaster View Post
Yeah, KDF got the Vorcha. . .but that's about it for noteworthy ships, other than maybe that scourge refit and 1-2 others. The BoPs are a joke, and not worth the time and money that goes into getting them.
My Lvl 50 Klingon Tac has a Mirror Universe Vor'cha and loves it. However he also flies a Hegh'ta Hvy BOP. Sure it's squishy (all BOP's are) but it's the least squishy BOP in the game and outfitted with Lvl 50 gear it can make a very good account for itself and often has... especially in the role that BOP's fill best.

Granted the Vor'cha is his flagship... but for stealthy hunting the Hegh'ta is the best BOP choice, IMO.
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