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Last word we got on the Ambassador is it was being saved for a FE. Now we're being told the FEs wont be coming back until summer next year. So another year before the Ambassador? Really?
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# 2
08-13-2012, 04:00 PM
Plans change all the time. That's the problem with giving out information: fans assume nothing is subject to change. An Ambassador could come out on Thursday or it could come out 2 years from Thursday.
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# 3
08-13-2012, 04:01 PM
The game can wait. It's not like adding another cruiser to the game anytime soon is going to drastically offset the delicate statistical balance between what exists now. They all tank and do middle of the road DPS, like they're suppose to.
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# 4
08-13-2012, 04:20 PM
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The game can wait. It's not like adding another cruiser to the game anytime soon is going to drastically offset the delicate statistical balance between what exists now. They all tank and do middle of the road DPS, like they're suppose to.
I think it's more of the fact that it's an Official Version of the ENTERPRISE that's making folks go..

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...as to why isn't it, in the game already.
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# 5
08-13-2012, 04:23 PM
Ah was wondering where this was
and yeah , its downright annoying , the Ambassador may be seen as the 'ugly duckling' by some , but it has some really dedicated fans , and its downright ludicrous we have a NX in game and not the Ambassador
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# 6
08-13-2012, 04:26 PM
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Ah was wondering where this was
and yeah , its downright annoying , the Ambassador may be seen as the 'ugly duckling' by some , but it has some really dedicated fans , and its downright ludicrous we have a NX in game and not the Ambassador
An Ambassador is in all of 5 episodes of Trek: 4 episodes of TNG and 1 episode of DS9 - total screen time not even 10 minutes. An NX is in 98 episodes. I don't see how it would be ludicrous.
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08-13-2012, 04:29 PM
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An Ambassador is in all of 5 episodes of Trek: 4 episodes of TNG and 1 episode of DS9 - total screen time not even 10 minutes. An NX is in 98 episodes. I don't see how it would be ludicrous.
Where's TGN's ship survey...

Which was more popular the C or the NX?

I don't remember.


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# 8
08-13-2012, 04:30 PM
I suppose you have a point , but what of the cheyenne ?
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# 9
08-14-2012, 05:27 AM
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An Ambassador is in all of 5 episodes of Trek: 4 episodes of TNG and 1 episode of DS9 - total screen time not even 10 minutes. An NX is in 98 episodes. I don't see how it would be ludicrous.
Total screentime not even 10 minutes...what?
Totally arbitrary number anyone?
Besides, what about the Nova?
The Prometheus?
The Olympic?
The Galaxy-X?
All appeared in even less episodes that the Ambassador class.
If you wanna throw arbitrary criteria for why ship x is ludicrous, why not pick something that's not countered by the fact that there are ships that don't fit those criteria aready in this game?
Oh BTW, "Yesterday's Enterprise" was in the "TNG Viewer's Choice Marathon" back in '94 which featured the 5 most popular episodes from that show.
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# 10
08-17-2012, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by thecosmic1 View Post
An Ambassador is in all of 5 episodes of Trek: 4 episodes of TNG and 1 episode of DS9 - total screen time not even 10 minutes. An NX is in 98 episodes. I don't see how it would be ludicrous.
It becomes ludicrous when you consider the Ambassador Class is built during the 24th Century (50 years pre-STO), and the NX Class is built during the 22nd Century (250 years pre-STO). I know they call the NX Class in the game a "replica", but the design itself is still 250 years old.

The Akira Class is the 24th Century "NX Class", there was no need to make a 25th Century "replica" of the NX, other than fan-service.

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I stand by my criteria - at least as far as the original post goes. The NX was in 98 episodes and was a real part of the series: and the first warp Enterprise. The Ambassador was in a handful of episodes. I'm not arguing the Ambassador shouldn't be in the game - it's one of my favorite ships! I'm simply saying you can't say having an Ambassador in the game is more important then having the NX. I mean heck, there's more episodes with an NX then there are with a Connie.
Luna Class: Only shown in novels, not canon.
Vesta Class: Only shown in novels, not canon.
Olympic Class: Shown in 1 episode, in an alternate future created by 'Q'
Galaxy-X: Shown in 1 episode, in an alternate future created by 'Q'

One could argue both the novels, and alternate future timelines, should both be considered "non-canon". Other ships like the Prometheus and Nova Classes had even less screen-time than the Ambassador Class, and yet they've been a part of the game since launch. Your definition of how long time the Ambassador Class was seen on screen, is rather arbitrary, especially considering there was 1 TNG episode centered around an Ambassador Class (Yesterday's Enterprise).

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