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Fleet doffs cannot be used to starbase contributions. Yet, they can be listed on the exchange. Since there is sometimes no way to tell the difference between a 'regular' and a fleet doff, this is going to lead to lots of complaining and bug reports of 'doff contributions not working' when really it is working as you have intended. Either reverse it back to where you can contribute them, or make it so that you can't list them on the exchange. Or, somehow mark them as 'fleet' so people can tell the difference.
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# 2
08-22-2012, 04:27 PM
That seems very confusing, why wouldnt fleet doffs be used in fleet missions?

What next? Fleet credits cant be used in fleet shops? XD
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# 3
08-23-2012, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by elandarksky View Post
That seems very confusing, why wouldnt fleet doffs be used in fleet missions?

What next? Fleet credits cant be used in fleet shops? XD
The idea, I suspect, is that by using them for Fleet Missions you also get Fleet Credits with which you can buy more DOFFs. It is a losing proposition but it could work for a bit. So they want to prevent this. They could prevent this by simply making it so you do not get Creds for donating these DOFFs but instead they decided to pull this little stunt... Joy.
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# 4
08-23-2012, 02:27 AM
Not enough noise is being made about this issue. Starbases will grind to a halt for everyone with this idiotic change in place.
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# 5
08-23-2012, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by hasukurobi View Post
The idea, I suspect, is that by using them for Fleet Missions you also get Fleet Credits with which you can buy more DOFFs. It is a losing proposition but it could work for a bit. So they want to prevent this. They could prevent this by simply making it so you do not get Creds for donating these DOFFs but instead they decided to pull this little stunt... Joy.
And yet they implement fleet mark booster, that costs fleet credits, that boosts fleet mark production, that is used for contributions, that yield fleet credits.

Same should be with the fleet doffs, only it's not. They should be at least bound or recognizable in the exchange in some way if not being used for contribution is their goal.
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# 6
08-24-2012, 12:38 PM
This change is a no-go, sorry. Fleet duffs are supposed to be available for fleetbase advancements ... hence the name "fleet duffs". I cumpletely agree that they should NOT be abused for Recruitment XP and Dilithium grinding, that's logical. However, what exploit can be seen in donatring those duffs to the fleetbase assignments?

Okay, let's assume they won't put it back the way it was before, so can we see at least sum sort of marking that they are from a fleet store and cannot be donatred to the fleetbase anymore? Maybe a red dot sumwhere on the icon, or a different purrtrait borderline?

Oh and, while you're at it, can you please give KDF green, blue and purrple duffs a different borderline color? They look like FED duffs now and I can't really see which ones are KDF (and unsluttable for FED players).

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# 7
08-24-2012, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by eristhevorta View Post
This change is a no-go, sorry. Fleet duffs are supposed to be available for fleetbase advancements ... hence the name "fleet duffs". I cumpletely agree that they should NOT be abused for Recruitment XP and Dilithium grinding, that's logical. However, what exploit can be seen in donatring those duffs to the fleetbase assignments?

Okay, let's assume they won't put it back the way it was before, so can we see at least sum sort of marking that they are from a fleet store and cannot be donatred to the fleetbase anymore? Maybe a red dot sumwhere on the icon, or a different purrtrait borderline?

Oh and, while you're at it, can you please give KDF green, blue and purrple duffs a different borderline color? They look like FED duffs now and I can't really see which ones are KDF (and unsluttable for FED players).

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Agreed.

That and the tool to dissuade from abusing for fleet credits is pretty much in place. These are random DOFFs. There is no guarantee you'll get the exact DOFFs you need for that particular fleet project. I know I would not be too inclined to blow too much fleet cred on uncertain DOFFs when I am saving for a number of higher tier ships for PvP.
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