Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 1 CSE - One hit by Neg'vars?
08-24-2012, 05:48 PM
Hey there.

I'm sure a number of people have had this happen to them in Cure Space Elite (CSE) where the Neg'vars are able to 1-hit you with some invisible shot from full shield and hull?

Earlier I got hit by such a thing and read it did over 61,000 damage and I couldn't even see the shot that hit me! The ship I'm using is a Heavy Escort Carrier which has decent enough hull (with engineering consoles of course for resists).

Is there anything I can do more to protect/notice these things? I swear recently the Neg'vars and Raptors that spawn are a LOT harder than before or should I just file a bug report?
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 64
# 2
08-24-2012, 05:52 PM
ii saw that happen to a guy in a dread cruiser so you are not the only one
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 3
08-24-2012, 06:49 PM
They use a souped-up 'isometric discharge console' from the kdf,

Its an electrical attack (so you have little to no resistance to it)

It can 'arc' between players, jumping from one to another dealing larger damage each hit up to 3/4 times.

My only solution is, when the neg'var is loose, evasive maneuvers yourself at least 6km from any ally (including turrets/aecton assimilatiors) ((not sure about carrier pets))

This way you get hit with the initial attack (which is in most cases non-fatal) and it wont arc to your teammates, or back you you.

The animation of the discharge is a very small whitish ball that flies at speeds similar to scramble sensors or viral matrix, faster than a torp, not as fast as a cannon volley.
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# 4
08-25-2012, 12:28 AM
I have found that double charging one's shields from the engineer and science's side. Will lessen the impact and damage. But the catch is, you have to see the attack coming to offset the attack.

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Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 357
# 5
08-25-2012, 04:12 AM
i have done ~20x 1vs 1 fights with the negh var ships and that i really get 1 hitted by this skill happend 2x the other times threy not use it or sometimes only make a lower hit with it whats not 1 hit.

so if it happend to a player in 1:10 fights its not so crazy in total.
Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 321
# 6
08-25-2012, 04:52 AM
Yeah, the Isometric Charge.

It chains from player to player, if you're the first link in the chain it won't kill you from full health (usually survive with a loss of one shield facing and my hull down to 40% in my HEC). Depending on your exact build you might survive being the second in the chain. Third & Fourth you're probably knackered.

I'm not aware of a hard counter at the moment, but keeping 6km away from it and prioritising the Negh'Var as soon as it appears seems to be the best solution.
Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 357
# 7
08-25-2012, 05:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by skhc View Post

It chains from player to player, if you're the first link in the chain it won't kill you from full health (usually survive with a loss of one shield facing and my hull down to 40% in my HEC). Depending on your exact build you might survive being the second in the chain. .
that can be the reason why i near never get killed coz i clear cube sides still solo + clear the raptor + nevh gar ship solo to so he hits me only with first inso strike what deals no dmg.
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