Captain
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# 1 Cure the Idiots.
08-25-2012, 01:55 AM
Cure Elite

I know everyone could agree that Cure Elite lately has been attracting dumb noobs who are "hell bent" on destroying the cubes before destroying all the probes. By doing this they release an armada of reinforcements bound for the IKS Kang. They can barely keep the Birds of Prey away, let alone the Raptors and Negh'Vars. They don't listen to the other players when we yell in the mic or type in chat, not to destroy Cubes before all probes are gone. There needs to be an anoying bridge officer prompt wanring them that gets in the way of their view everytime they prematurely attack the Cube.
Commander
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# 2
08-25-2012, 04:14 AM
and what you want now?

tell in forum that anyone kill a cube and not listen to you?
Commander
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# 3
08-25-2012, 05:05 AM
First off, here's a solution for you. Don't PuG.

If you're getting a group from a chat channel then establish the tactics in the game lobby beforehand, and don't proceed until everyone is clear.

Expecting 4 complete strangers to use the same tactics, or even speak the same sodding language as you and then screaming at them in voice chat when they don't makes you a bellend.


And secondly, your tactic of destroying the probes at all the shipyards before touching a cube isn't something I've seen a competent group attempt in months. The two methods I see, which, I might add work on a consistent basis, are the slower and safer RMMRL (Right probes, Mid probes, mid cube, right cube, left probes & cube) and the faster, but a little riskier RML (Right probes & cube, Mid probes & cube, Left probes & cube. And this does work if your Kang Guardian is good enough and the other players pick up the spawns at their own shipyard). More than one way to complete the mission, eh? Fancy that?

Suggesting that the game enforce specific tactics is silly at the best of times. Suggesting that the game enforce sub-optimal tactics is ludicrous.

Last edited by skhc; 08-25-2012 at 05:12 AM.
Commander
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# 4
08-25-2012, 05:20 AM
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And secondly, your tactic of destroying the probes at all the shipyards before touching a cube isn't something I've seen a competent group attempt in months. .
i do only random stfs and that was the only way to save alot from them.

today i am in and noticed 4 players without firepower that says nobody can handle a raptor or nevh gar ship.

so we clear first all nanites it have needet 25 min afther that we try to hold kang alive against bops yes it was a hard job with full nuub group but anyone read teamchat so we have a chance to win the mission.

then ea side anyone?makes the cube down to ~20% then blow them at once and call kang instantly so we win and not risk to fail on the armee of raptors.

its the perfect taktik if you are in a nuub group and grants a sucess mission.

i have seen tonns of mission failing only coz 1 cube was killed and the players cant handle the raptors.
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# 5
08-25-2012, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by lostmoony View Post
its the perfect taktik if you are in a nuub group and grants a sucess mission.
That's true, but if you're in that noobish a group then chances are you're in a PuG, and have no grounds to expect them to be able to tie their own shoelaces, much less figure out when to blow a cube.

Which brings me back to the first piece of advice I offered alexindcobra: don't PuG.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 6
08-25-2012, 05:29 AM
Striking the cubes (in fast order) can achieve mission success
using a mic rarely does

firstly 90% of people have the voice chat disabled anyway (because its Rubbish)
Secondly we don't all speak the same language
Thirdly there is no chain of command
Lt. Commander
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# 7
08-25-2012, 05:30 AM
skhc is right. When you have so many different tactics and people that learned on specific ones, PUGing Cure can be a nightmare and expecting everyone to do the same tactic each time is ridiculous. It happens rarely; I went into a group last week who were all using mrrml (which I prefer over rmmrl) without coordination (as in someone directing) and it was an absolutely beautiful sight. Sadly though, I know it was an extreme rarity and will never expect it.
-It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.-- Mark Twain.
Captain
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# 8
08-25-2012, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by skhc View Post
That's true, but if you're in that noobish a group then chances are you're in a PuG, and have no grounds to expect them to be able to tie their own shoelaces, much less figure out when to blow a cube.

Which brings me back to the first piece of advice I offered alexindcobra: don't PuG.
Listen, dude, not all of us have the choice of being online with our friends. I have no choise but to PUG in STF missions. Boff promt would be something to warn them, so if you a pro, you wouldn't have to worry about it. People playing Elite Cure for first time may pay attention to it more than they do the chat or mic.
Ensign
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# 9
08-25-2012, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by skhc View Post
First off, here's a solution for you. Don't PuG.
In Elites, it's man up or go home. PUGs in elites are ALL that keeps it together. It's impossible to find a group, even in the Elite STF channels.

If you don't like more difficulty, go back to hello kitty online, Elite is not for casuals.
Commander
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# 10
08-25-2012, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ziploc332 View Post
In Elites, it's man up or go home. PUGs in elites are ALL that keeps it together. It's impossible to find a group, even in the Elite STF channels.

If you don't like more difficulty, go back to hello kitty online, Elite is not for casuals.
That's strange, because I'm able to get groups from the chat channels when I need one, and any time I look at EliteSTF, it's active. Not as active as it was a few months ago, but still active enough to form groups. Could be I'm on at better times of day?


And I have no issue with difficulty, I've done more than 300 with, at most, 10 failures.
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