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# 1 Wanting a B'rel
08-27-2012, 06:33 AM
My main point of ship choice in this game is to fly ships that were in the shows/movies. The starting BOP is nice, but ideally I'm looking for a B'rel skin. Is it true my only choice to get the iconic bird is to buy the retrofit version that fires while cloaked?


I don't care what level it is, but is there any ships that have the B'rel skin? Or am I forced to get Chang's ship?
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# 2
08-27-2012, 07:29 AM
You're in luck. The B'rel is the level 50 Bird of Prey.

http://www.stowiki.org/B'rel_Bird-of-Prey_Retrofit


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# 3
08-27-2012, 07:30 AM
The only way to get the B'rel is to buy the retrofit. But the retro's nice, it can fire torpedoes while cloaked. Arm a tricobalt device, drop it on someone's doorstep all buffed up, and big badda boom. I was once one-shotted out of nowhere by a B'rel with a tricobalt.
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# 4
08-27-2012, 07:35 AM
I have a B'rel and love it as a torpedo boat and i am a menace in space
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# 5
08-27-2012, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by voporak View Post
The only way to get the B'rel is to buy the retrofit. But the retro's nice, it can fire torpedoes while cloaked. Arm a tricobalt device, drop it on someone's doorstep all buffed up, and big badda boom. I was once one-shotted out of nowhere by a B'rel with a tricobalt.

Ah shoot. That's what I feared. Well, time to grind for the zen.
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# 6
08-27-2012, 08:14 AM
In mho its crap. Its fun to r un around and annoy people but good lu ck on actually killing anything. And in STFs...you die often. I love the idea of the ship..but its so narrow in its role its hard to be effective.
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# 7
08-27-2012, 09:22 AM
Its funny ... I own the B'rel retrofit and love it to death...


but I HATE the look of it. Its so... 60's. Bulbous protuberances, curved surfaces.. bleh. Reminds me of those egg-shaped chairs in the Austin Powers movies.

I would love to be able to re-skin it as the Hegh'ta ... now THAT is an awesome looking ship.
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# 8
08-27-2012, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sgtciscoinsa View Post
In mho its crap. Its fun to r un around and annoy people but good lu ck on actually killing anything. And in STFs...you die often. I love the idea of the ship..but its so narrow in its role its hard to be effective.
When I was doing STF elite missions, I rarely died. I could even take on a cube on my own.
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# 9
08-27-2012, 10:52 AM
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When I was doing STF elite missions, I rarely died. I could even take on a cube on my own.
And it's entirely possible to do that in a BoP, if you're using an engineering toon and have the BoP focused more on 'tanking' abilities. You're sacrificing sheer firepower for that, though, and the BoP already has enough trouble competing on the DPS side of things compared to the nearest Fed equivalent, the Defiant and the other escorts. I run a Tactical toon in a Hegh'ta, and I've got 2 Tac Team 1s and an RSP 1, along with EPtS1 and HE1 and 2. That usually gives me enough crunchiness to survive most fights against NPCs, but I have trouble with STF cubes simply because they hit pretty hard, have a tendency to one-shot you, and drain your shields after you've used your Hazard Emitters to fend off a previous shield drain attempt.

That being said, the BoP is a versatile class due to the Universal boff slots, but it definitely suffers from limitations due to the overall fragility of the class, only 3 tac consoles on Hegh'ta and B'rel retro, etc.
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# 10
08-27-2012, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sgtciscoinsa View Post
In mho its crap. Its fun to r un around and annoy people but good lu ck on actually killing anything. And in STFs...you die often. I love the idea of the ship..but its so narrow in its role its hard to be effective.
LOL, "so narrow in its role its hard to be effective" with the most flexible ship in the entire game? 3x3x3 consoles, total universal BOFF layout (at a cost of fewer total BOFF slots than normal ships).

I've been able to kill players in alpha strikes with my B'Rel torpedo boat. Not hardly an "annoyance" when one of the ships of your team suddenly blows up from a hail of torpedoes and getting finished off by a Bio-Neural Warhead, and if that didn't kill them, hopefully the Tricobalt Mine will. Then I zip right on by and dip back into cloak after 3 seconds of my last torpedo firing.

In STFs, the rules to surviving in a BOP are the same as any other Escort. You can still dish out alot of hurt with it, and in a B'Rel torpedo boat build, your torps will rip apart alot of Borg NPCs and structures.

The B'Rel like other BOPs share the same strengths and vulnerabilities. Flexibility, weaker hulls than Escorts, weaker shields, best handling, Battle Cloaks (or Enhanced Battle Cloaks with the B'Rel).

Like other BOPs, the B'Rel needs an experienced hand to build it up, outfit it, and come up with a useful BOFF layout, and of course, fly it. The weak shields and hull are not receptive to novices in STFs and PVP.
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