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Ensign
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Really.....since season 2 it has been down hill if you want play fed side in a f vs K...its ridiculous how frustrating it becomes being a fed escort pilot and having to deal with all the various forms of disables/ spam/ and just all out WTF moments when playing versus Klinks.

Unless you have a well organised team (Pre-made) dont bother going FvK with a fed toon. I remember the good ol days before the carrier got its uber buff and spam began to control the game. You can just do a FVK pug vs pug and it was not always the klink pug owning the fed pug, it was a 50-50 battle and the fight could go either way.

For example I decided to do some C&H and what do I run into is this cloaking BOP that can drop mines that hit my DEF-R for 39k- 42k, one shot kills basically. Didn't matter I had full shields up, but it was not worth a cent....and all he did was just fly around and drop mines while cloaked and do absolutely nothing else and rack up 1.9 million in dmg...SKILL???NO!!!
one of those WTF moments ...yes. And its hard to keep track of all these mines when you have carrier spam + other Raptors + Bops trying to shoot you down. You cant even chase down a bop or a raptor with these things obliterating your hull in one shot or 2 hits...and this is fair?!?!?! one shot kills..LOL!!

Klink ships turn better, hit harder and overall just control maps better if you know what you are doing with them, klink pugs will on any given day out perform fed pugs no ifs ands or buts about it and that's nothing to do with player skill. I have played both sides, and yes the klink side is easier, that i deleted my klink toons

Then we have the Jem ships which are again really strong ships for their size (yes it is available for both sides i know), all though in the real trek universe they were about as effective as a front line fighter, those of us who got stuck without these beautiful broken ships (lack of better words) have to just put up and shut up...sigh!!

No its not about asking for a game breaking uber tank escort ship, its just about asking for balance, will it ever arrive?? Nope not in this life time..

And NO i dont always have time to put together a OPVP made or pre-made fleet group to go play FvK, some times I just want to pop in do some pvps quickly and leave cuz RL is really busy.
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Last edited by stellardust101; 09-08-2012 at 10:22 AM.
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# 2
09-08-2012, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by stellardust101 View Post
1. being a fed escort pilot

2. having to deal with all the various forms of disables/ spam/ and just all out WTF moments when playing versus Klinks.

3. remember the good ol days before the carrier got its uber buff

4. You can just do a FVK pug vs pug and it was not always the klink pug owning the fed pug, it was a 50-50 battle and the fight could go either way.

5. I run into is this cloaking BOP that can drop mines that hit my DEF-R for 39k- 42k,

6. Klink ships turn better, hit harder

7. if you know what you are doing with them, klink pugs will on any given day out perform fed pugs

8. and yes the klink side is easier, that i deleted my klink toons

9. Then we have the Jem ships which are again really strong ships for their size (yes it is available for both sides i know)

10. some times I just want to pop in do some pvps quickly and leave cuz RL is really busy.
1- dont be an escort pilot then, escorts are smooshie in the wrong hands.
2- Klingons have mostly the same abilities as feds, a few cross faction consoles are even available, both feds and kdfs have 'overpowered consoles' but most have a defence.
3- Federation has carriers and flight decks now, meaning KDF isnt at some huge advantage
4- Guess the KDF player base is more experianced
5- I ran into a fed cardassian galor pulling the same stunt (tricobalt mines and liked to hide them in warp plasma) be vigilant is my only suggestion
6- KDF = Races who fight, FED = Races who talk, thats the nature of it from the TV show, want a more aggressive FED then you'd need the Terran Empire.
7- Kdf more expericanced players.. again.
8- Well that's your own opinion,
9- Not relevant to the statement 'Klinks have it so easy in PVP - Sigh!'
10- then 'op klingons' is great for you, VERY quick matches when the kdf beat the federation hands down.

Personally i shy away from pvp, im not a great pvper, ill try it now and again when i fancy a break from pve. I've played both as a fed and Kdf for a while, and noticed;

- Federation players are not always the best, quite a lot are inexperianced at pvp,
- They fly cruisers as tactical captains and do not understand what tactical team is
- KDF players by nature are likely to be more experianced (you must have at least progressed to level 23 to play for a start, and most people are likely to carry on with their fed character til they fancy something new).
-You'll find Kdf pugs actually talk in team chat,
-Kdf actually support each other with healing abilities and work together.

Ultimately dont blame the tools (ships/consoles), or the people you fly with, sometimes the group you fight is more experienced and more supportive to their team.

Last edited by elandarksky; 09-08-2012 at 10:49 AM.
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# 3
09-08-2012, 10:49 AM
Well, I'll agree that carrier spam has gotten/has been out of control, but that is true of both factions.

I don't think I will ever stop queuing for FvK, but there are times I think about it... usually after 2 or 3 carriers spend an entire match pumping out wings of Siphon Drones every 8 or 9 seconds. Of course, that's not much worse than 2 or 3 Atrox Carriers dropping Danubes at the same rate.

The idea that KDF ships are superior to Fed ships is (mostly) not true. Most Escort Pilots would prefer a Defiant-R or MVAM to a Qin Raptor.

There is only 1 true KDF sci ship and it is Z-Store only and comparable only to the DSSV.

Arguably, the Negh'Var or F-Vorcha make for much better assault cruisers than their fed counterparts, but suffer survivability/support issues when used this way. Otherwise, they're not much different than fed cruisers.

BOPs... well, BOPs are BOPs, and my favorite thing to kill in my sci ship. Full Aux power, and some SP into sensors helps with this by negating their battle cloak anytime they get within 6 or 7 kilometers. A creative pilot can make something happen in a BOP, but a good opponent can negate almost anything a BOP tries to do.

Seriously, I think the main reason for this stigma is the lower KDF population, especially PvP population. When I log in my Klink toon for some PUG matches, I usually end up teamed with the same few people over and over. After a while, you pick up on each other's strengths and weaknesses and begin to faceroll most opposition as you begin to work more cohesively.
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# 4
09-08-2012, 11:39 AM
Not say that everyone on the Fed side is bad. Fed has a lot of great players, but most of the meatheads do tend to gravitate to that faction. Guess it's a statistical probability give the population imbalance.

I know it sounds arrogant, but it has been my observation that KDF tends to attract higher caliber players on average.
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# 5
09-08-2012, 11:58 AM
This thread again?
You do realize that the feds have better ships right?
Klingons usually are more experienced players. The good Klingons don't use siphon drones.
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# 6
09-08-2012, 12:03 PM
Welcome to the real Star Trek, where Kirk is a noob and Chang a super uber!
K D F - Killing Disadvantaged Feds
K D F - The evul way to play Sto

Adm. Marcus orders: Punish the evul Klinguns! Punish the evul HOBOs! And nuclearize Qo'nos once and for all!
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# 7
09-08-2012, 01:41 PM
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Welcome to the real Star Trek, where Kirk is a noob and Chang a super uber!
Oh well, at least young Kirk has a nice chest. Neat haircut on Chang though.


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# 8
09-09-2012, 04:44 PM
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This thread again?
You do realize that the feds have better ships right?
^this 10char
Rihannsu
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# 9
09-08-2012, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by stellardust101 View Post
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there is a reason why the most successful pvp fleets are fed fleets. Feds have the better toys all around.

if you are looking for a KDF fleet, and want to see for yourself, feel free to post in opvp or pm me in game
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# 10
09-08-2012, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by stellardust101 View Post
Really.....since season 2 it has been down hill if you want play fed side in a f vs K...its ridiculous how frustrating it becomes being a fed escort pilot and having to deal with all the various forms of disables/ spam/ and just all out WTF moments when playing versus Klinks.

Unless you have a well organised team (Pre-made) dont bother going FvK with a fed toon. I remember the good ol days before the carrier got its uber buff and spam began to control the game. You can just do a FVK pug vs pug and it was not always the klink pug owning the fed pug, it was a 50-50 battle and the fight could go either way.
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Just be thankful that PSW has been nerfed several times, or you'd get one passed by them instead of 2 or 3 passed.

CnH is pure chaos. If you don't want to get tagteamed stick with your teammates. If they're pure farmers, well ... good luck.

I remember when Pengs were given to Klingons. Pure fun B'rel action. I never did run that boat. I got bored of the idea, but it was hilarious watching Feds blow up after Klings got denied that weapon for so long.


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