Ensign
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4
Hello everyone I'm 700+ player and I've noticed a few things that just don't sit well with me.
Especially sense I pay for my access.

My grip is with the STF Leaver Penalty. Sure this is nice and all but it needs to be redesigned to make exceptions.

When you get disconnected in an STF, it still gives you a penalty if you can't get back on just in time to rejoin. - This happens about once or twice a month for me.

Paid subscription users should NEVER get a Penalty. We could just stop giving you money. I know I am leaning in that direction.

When the Secondary Objective is failed, anyone leaving the STF should never get the Penalty. Using my self as an example, I only play those now for the secondary so what's the point of staying with a group of Pugs who keep dying, falling in the soup, or who can't guard a transformer?


I have other things I'm angry about, like having to open 100 lock boxes to get the special ship inside, it's too high, but that is for another time.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 2
10-07-2012, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by masterramar View Post
Hello everyone I'm 700+ player and I've noticed a few things that just don't sit well with me.
Especially sense I pay for my access.

My grip is with the STF Leaver Penalty. Sure this is nice and all but it needs to be redesigned to make exceptions.

When you get disconnected in an STF, it still gives you a penalty if you can't get back on just in time to rejoin. - This happens about once or twice a month for me.

Paid subscription users should NEVER get a Penalty. We could just stop giving you money. I know I am leaning in that direction.

When the Secondary Objective is failed, anyone leaving the STF should never get the Penalty. Using my self as an example, I only play those now for the secondary so what's the point of staying with a group of Pugs who keep dying, falling in the soup, or who can't guard a transformer?


I have other things I'm angry about, like having to open 100 lock boxes to get the special ship inside, it's too high, but that is for another time.
Unfortunately, if they do that...all people have to do is fake a dc to get away from a bad team and get to a new team with no hour cool down.

Staying if they can't complete the secondary is the luck of the draw, if you want to be sure your going to complete it you need to build a group.
Ensign
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4
# 3
10-07-2012, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by lianthelia View Post
Unfortunately, if they do that...all people have to do is fake a dc to get away from a bad team and get to a new team with no hour cool down.

Staying if they can't complete the secondary is the luck of the draw, if you want to be sure your going to complete it you need to build a group.
Fake a DC? All they need to do on Crypics end is detect when a player gets DC by a time out. It's when it stops responding.

There is a way to determine when there is no response via time out then there is via lost connection.

Far as building a good group, that's not possible under the circumstances. My fleet and friends just aren't literally able to sign on during my hours and the people who are online don't speak a bit of English at all period and if they do it's not well enough to understand instructions.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 4
10-07-2012, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by masterramar View Post
Fake a DC? All they need to do on Crypics end is detect when a player gets DC by a time out. It's when it stops responding.

There is a way to determine when there is no response via time out then there is via lost connection.
Easy enough to fake a DC. Pull your modem cord. There is no way the system would know if it's an internet timeout (ie DC) or a client shut off.


STF's are interesting enough, it's people that see the optional gone then bail. I'm sorry if you don't want to finish the mission you deserve the timer. If you get a PUG group that doesn't know what they're doing and not listening and that frustrates you to no end? Simple answer for that:

DON'T PUG STF's

There is dozens of channels that have people in there looking for groups all the time, fleets that have STF runs all the time etc.
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Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 27
# 5
10-08-2012, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by lianthelia View Post
Unfortunately, if they do that...all people have to do is fake a dc to get away from a bad team and get to a new team with no hour cool down.

Staying if they can't complete the secondary is the luck of the draw, if you want to be sure your going to complete it you need to build a group.
If that's you're only reason for doing them is optionals then why are you queing for random groups? That's a massively ineffective way of going about this..
Lieutenant
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 78
# 6
10-07-2012, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by masterramar View Post
with a group of Pugs

And another one who doesnt know or thinks about what PUG stands for.

Basically what you saying is: "with a group of Pick-up Groups"

Doesn't make sense.


And the whole post of you sounds very arrogant.

All I'm reading is: Mr. Diva should be allowed to leave if he doesn't like the group or if the teammembers don't have very good items.

Last edited by titus1608; 10-07-2012 at 08:33 AM.
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,334
# 7
10-07-2012, 08:51 AM
Yeah totally

Usually when I want to quit on a pug for obvious reasons I just alt tab and kill the sto app.
Go on an alt play a round come back never see a penalty
Ensign
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4
# 8
10-07-2012, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by titus1608 View Post
And another one who doesnt know or thinks about what PUG stands for.

Basically what you saying is: "with a group of Pick-up Groups"

Doesn't make sense.


And the whole post of you sounds very arrogant.

All I'm reading is: Mr. Diva should be allowed to leave if he doesn't like the group or if the teammembers don't have very good items.
Pick up Gamers
Not Pick up groups.

Last time I mentioned something slightly insulting to someone on here, Cryptic tried making an example out of me. I suggest you refrain from making my mistake.
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,334
# 9
10-07-2012, 10:20 AM
I actually love the lack of a kick function they got my respect for running with that feature.


Most other games will have primadonnas ready to kick you over nothing or rage on you for not having the gear you get for beating the map, which of course they never had themselves starting out - now refusing to carry others like they got themselves once


It adds a huge touch of co-op and having to carry people which I am all for albeit I do make fun of people and call them out and tell them what to do

Lack of a kick function effectively removed any elitism and mowed down the upper class, other games should follow STO's example
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 5,484
# 10
10-07-2012, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by masterramar View Post
Pick up Gamers
Not Pick up groups.
nope it's Pick Up Group
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