With the new 1000 day Vet ships the Klingons got now an escort with a battle cloak, I think it is time that also the Defiant get's a battle cloak. Otherwise the Federation is completly loosing out against the Klingons, that can mount on every ship Cannons, and 95% of their ships have a cloak, battle cloak or advanced battle cloak.

I agree, the Defiant NEEDS a battle cloak. The reason it didn't get one so far was because of balancing for both factions. To be honest, I doubt the Defiant getting a BC will be that much of a major issue. Considering most players in this game only play PvE, why not give that little ship what it deserves? Besides from the fact that in Trek any ship with a cloak could use it when ever... :-)

In other words: battlecloaks for everyone!

The Defiant not having a battlecloak makes no difference to me (I have the Defiant). Sure there have been moments when I wished I could just cloak to escape my impending doom, but eh. Having played with a KDF character and a BoP it's hardly the get out of jail free card some think of it.

Also I am reminded of how the Defiant handled its cloaking device in the actual show... and there were plenty of times when it would have been handy for her to cloak and get out of dodge, but it seemed particularly sensitive to battle damage. In 'Way of the Warrior' its cloak was knocked out of comission when Sisko beamed Dukat and the Detapa council off their stricken vessel. In 'Sacrifice of Angels' attrition and piled-up battle damage had 'fried' it when they could really have used it to escape a desperate melee. Other times when they've used the cloak tactically was for the 'alpha-strike-immediately-upon-decloak' thing which they did in 'The Die Is Cast' and 'Way of the Warrior'.

So really I don't have a problem with the Defiant not having battlecloak. It fits the canon better IMO.

i don't think the defiant needs battle cloak although it would be good but i really don't use it very much and since pvp is useless there's no real need. i am annoyed about the fact that the kdf do get a battle cloak on their 1000 day vet reward. personally i would rather have theres than the chimera. ours looks like crap and to add insult to injury the kdf still get a battle cloak with it. bit of a piss take. im not saying the feds necessarily need a cloak but balance things a little at least

The kdf ship sacrificed shield mod for the cloak. There is balance.

it may fit canon for you but its a problem in kerrat. lot of times, i get "alpha-strike"-shoot by a klingon (not destroying my ship) and then he cloaks. he is doing this over and over again (really happend not just once but quite often) so i cannot teach him a lesson. makes kerrat less funny for me.

okay lets say i dont have a problem with the cloak not being a battle cloak but then at least do not make it as a console for us but instead as in the ship implemented...

I feel the need to mention this if it already has been apologies. That being said on to the episode you quote 'way of the warrior'. The reason why the ships cloak was knocked out was cause sisco lowered the defiants shields, to beam dukat and the rest of the cardies on board allowing the klingons to shoot up the ship. The cloak on board was on loan from the romulans whose cloaking technology was more advanced then klingon cloaking tech. other episodes mentioned the ship had taken so many hits i'm supprised it helds together.

And lastly i don't remember the defiant having to wait to go off red alert to cloak.


I dont have much of a opinion on this topic on weather this should be added

but i needed to address that subject

As far as space STFs go with the defiant, I only use the cloak for Alpha strike,CRFIII,andHYT, against assimilated Neg'vars, and Raptors. The other STFs I usually pull the cloak, and add another Neutronium console for added durability. I don't see the need for a battlecloak for my gameplay style (fed side).

I only have a Federation Character and yes my Odyssey Tactical Cruiser is still a work in progress. i however enjoy flying alongside KDF players in STF. yes your ships arent as strong but you have modified your playing style to suit. I am not one of these people who will whine my ship isnt good enough or i dont have enough fire power. As i said my Ship is a work in progress.

But i never complain about lousy DPS. hell when i go into STF its actually good fun to see how much firepower a KDF ship has.

and if im one of those cruisers who you are refering to, ill say this. I dont want a cloaking device. why do i need one. a ship the size of an Odyssey Cruiser would put out so much energy signatures that a cloak would be pointless.