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# 1 Loot in STF Elite
10-10-2012, 04:51 PM
A little rant and wondering concerning the loot aka rewards of the STF Elite. Last weeks these loots are really a joke of a bunch uncommon or rare MK XI junk where you can't even make a decent EC on the exchange with, if you even get some loot. Where is the according Cryptic "The Elite difficulty means that the challenges will be greater, but also the rewards" slogan in the game.

Yes, I know, you get a lock box, wooooot, but I don't play that game of buying keys till you have a hole in your wallet for yet more junk. True, you get 1100 Dilithium Ore, but hey, you are limited to refine only 8000 a day.

IMO, this loot should be at least very rare items MK XI or above, or rare items MK XII, or mebbe a token so those that are playing these STF Elites can refine more then 8000 Dilithium ore a day.

Another remarkable thing. Last STF Elite I did, we did the mission in time, so we got the extra. Everyone on the team has chosen 'NEED' on the items and strangely, nothing of this is been distributed to anyone of the team ??? What use it has it then to complete a STF Elite in time according the expectations ???

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# 2
10-10-2012, 05:06 PM
Loot on 'elite' IS better than the loot on 'normal'. So the part about "The Elite difficulty means that the challenges will be greater, but also the rewards" is technically true. Whether or not the loot has any value on the exchange doesn't matter.

As an aside, the only reason VR items on the exchange have high values is because they are, well... Very Rare. If every piece of gear you got from an STF was purple, they wouldn't be very rare anymore. Over time, their values on the exchange would fall as well as the market gets flooded with them.

So although I would love to get VR drops all the time from STFs, it would not be the right thing to do.
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# 3
10-10-2012, 09:16 PM
Latin is right. Loot on normals is garbage. On a good day. Loot on elites is garbage. On a decent day, but it's garbage you can sell/discard for at least decent EC. Also, on normals, the extra only has 3 items, whereas on elite it has 7. And those 7 items are significantly better (in value on exchange/discard value).

And you get EDCs. Gotta love those.
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# 4
10-12-2012, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 View Post
Latin is right. Loot on normals is garbage. On a good day. Loot on elites is garbage. On a decent day, but it's garbage you can sell/discard for at least decent EC. Also, on normals, the extra only has 3 items, whereas on elite it has 7. And those 7 items are significantly better (in value on exchange/discard value).

And you get EDCs. Gotta love those.
Oooooh woooow, you get EDC's You must be the funny one at home :

a. You can turn those in for Very Rare MK XI stuff, but it stops at a certain point as you have all what you needed, can't be sold on exchange for EC's as it's bound on character. Also, after the MK XI stuff, most of the frequent players do wanna step up to the heavier stuff.

b. You can turn it in for dilithium. Great, I would say but all of us is limited to refine only 8000 Dilithium ore a day. Metthinks you'll getting the picture. It's a painstaking long and slow process.

c. You can turn those in for Lock Boxes. Lols, excuse me, but not all of us is stupid to waste real money on stakes of this kind of gamble, where 9 of the 10 you are getting rubbish. BTW, doubting if this is even legal to have such a raffle. Coz that's what it is, a tombola/gamble game.

d. You can trade those in for Doff's. OMG, how many tactical ground & space Doff's do you need in you crew with the same abilities ??? 5 for each section, the rest is dead weight. Sell them on exchange, not possible, coz they are bound to character the moment you pick them up.

Same goes for the rare & very rare borg salvage, turn those in for weapons & gear ??? Same situation as in the EDC's.

Getting common & uncommon during the STF's, which are worth less then nothing on exchange or discharge, together with a bunch of batteries isn't getting rewarded according the level you are playing but more demotivating to play it any longer.
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# 5
10-12-2012, 08:02 AM
I've got to agree - STF Elite loot drops suck.

Last few grounds I've done I've been getting Mk XI blue Bat'leths - resale value? Oh, about 1000 ECs... Big whoop.

I think in the entire time I've been playing I've only ever equipped two loot items from STFs - one was a MK XI blue Neutronium Alloy console (which was handy but not really great 'cause you get them for free from the Undine mission) and a blue Mk XII Bat'leth which had about 2 DPS more than the Shard Sword of Kahless (and didn't look broken whilst my character was holding it).

At this point, I'd rather get a flat 10000 ECs from each STF run - I'd make way more money than with the vendor trash they hand out.

Also, yeah - EDCs - they're useless once you've gotten most of the stuff they buy. I've got a few hundred in the bank gathering dust...

Oh, and rare Proto Tech in Elite STFs is a real kick in the nuts - please get rid of it...

*Edit* and lastly, what the heck happened to large batteries?? I hardly ever see them drop any more - at least they're useful...
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# 6
10-12-2012, 08:30 AM
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... what the heck happened to large batteries?? I hardly ever see them drop any more - at least they're useful...
You answered your own question...
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# 7
10-15-2012, 03:52 PM
Now I feel stupid. What is this new rep system everyone keeps on talking about??
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# 8
10-15-2012, 04:18 PM
this is the information age...the guy with the most information and the means to get them is the new alpha male. Deal with it!
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For starters just klick the link provided on the MAIN PAGE that leads you to "priority one podcast at cryptic"

but in my endless generasity i will provide you with the "sacred" link

somewhere after 20 minutes it gets interesting.
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# 9
10-16-2012, 08:23 PM
To those with excess EDC's trade them in for Retro borg engines/shield/deflector. 5 EDC = 1 of those.
Buy like 20 of them.

Go to any trader on DS9 and turn each in for 100,000EC. That stack of 100 EDC soon turns into 2mil EC.
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# 10
10-17-2012, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by eradicator84 View Post
To those with excess EDC's trade them in for Retro borg engines/shield/deflector. 5 EDC = 1 of those.
Buy like 20 of them.

Go to any trader on DS9 and turn each in for 100,000EC. That stack of 100 EDC soon turns into 2mil EC.
It's not 100K EC, but a bit less aka 80K. But it's in general that the drops went down, even on missions : dropboxes, batteries, food are the most that are given. The new course that Cryptic is going for STF's, Roman/Reman, or anyother kind seems nice, but what about those that still at the start of the whole game. Will they be able to proceed as in the STF's & the rest, with projects of their own & getting reputation for that or will they still get valuable item drops, so they can turn those in for EC's if they wish.
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