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There has been some chatter that cryptic intends to further make dilth grinding harder after the LTS sale ends.

The primary way they intend to do this is to remove the quickie "investgate officer daily reports" - you will still be able to do them just they will remove the capacity to go to a panel and do all 3 in just a minute or 2.

That is the main chatter I here as the next nerf to dilth grinding - they already nerfed contraband turn over recently fro 3 to 5 and from 2hr to 4 hr.

I suspect there are other ideas in the works to drastcally reduce the amount of dilth that can be collected.

The whole purpose is of course to force people to buy Zen with real money to convert to dilth.

Now there will be people say "but what about the dilth market, it will get out of wack"

No it won't - from watching it for 9 months and watching the stock market for 20 years - I can say will strong confidence that i believe they are already in there keeping the price consant and stable by addind dilth when need be. Over the last few weeks the dilth market has not budged 1 or 2 points a day and there have been hundreds of thousand of dilth on both the buy and the ask. The last lock box only moved it out of it's fixed range for a very short time.

It is clear that it is being manipulate - my bet is on Cryptic and not some players because the movement up or down is almost non existant. And just like the Federal reserve printing money - Crptic is the only ones that can just "print" dilth out of nothing.

So after the LTS sale is over and the do start hitting dilth grinding with a huge nerf bat - how will this affect your game?

Will you use more real money to buy dilth?

Will you stop all starbase projects?

Will you spend more of you time in the game to grind dilth?

Will you quite the game?(of course there will be 1000's more locked into the game with the LTS sale - so I guess you won't quite if the nerf dilth collection some more)

What are your thoughts?
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# 2
10-14-2012, 10:08 AM
Where's this chatter come from? I'm not about to start theorising on rumours some player decided to pull out of their behind.
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# 3
10-14-2012, 10:14 AM
Don't know the exact post (too lazy to look it up) but (new) Foundry mission rewards are potentially going to be linked to the average length of time it takes to play the mission (same as Neverwinter) - when the Foundry rewards get added, 'Investigate Officer Reports' goes bye-bye.
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# 4
10-14-2012, 10:17 AM
Even IF they remove the quickies, It's not like it will be hard to imagine new ones that will fulfill the timelimit, and still be super easy.

And even ignoring the quickies, you can still earn roughly 8000+ Dil in less than 2 hours.
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# 5
10-14-2012, 10:18 AM
To be quite honest, if all you're doing in this game is just grinding, then you're probably better off moving on.

Boo hoo if you now actually have to play the game to get certain rewards.
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# 6
10-14-2012, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by weylandjuarez View Post
Don't know the exact post (too lazy to look it up) but (new) Foundry mission rewards are potentially going to be linked to the average length of time it takes to play the mission (same as Neverwinter) - when the Foundry rewards get added, 'Investigate Officer Reports' goes bye-bye.
There is no post(from a dev anyway) that says anything like that.
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# 7
10-14-2012, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by weylandjuarez View Post
Don't know the exact post (too lazy to look it up) but (new) Foundry mission rewards are potentially going to be linked to the average length of time it takes to play the mission (same as Neverwinter) - when the Foundry rewards get added, 'Investigate Officer Reports' goes bye-bye.
My Common Sense is tingling.....

Documentation please...this seems like speculation, albeit reasonable and consistent with their previous patterns..
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# 8
10-14-2012, 11:06 AM
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My Common Sense is tingling.....

Documentation please...this seems like speculation, albeit reasonable and consistent with their previous patterns..
Nothing definitive (when is there ever?) but some of the Foundry authors have been talking about it here.

Perhaps Kirksplat could give you info on his sources.
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# 9
10-14-2012, 11:18 AM
I have about 3k zen on my account, a lifetime sub, and... I have no clue about what I could do with such an amount of points.

- I'm opposed to buy keys. I don't play the casino IRL and i don't want to become an addict.
- I don't see the point of developping the starbase. The lockboxes and exchanges have better items to offer- for cheaper.
- I don't see the point of buying c-store ships anymore, since the lockbox ones are vastly superior. Whatever ship they release the lockbox ones would still be able to kick it badly in the ass.
- I already own a galor, a recluse, an orb, both temporal ships, shuttles, stuff, more stuff... I'm a bit unimpressed by any new shiny they could release.

Soooo, I don't need dilithium anymore. I've bought all these ships from the exchange, and since I own among the most blatant pay to win, cheated, cheater ships, I think the lifetime is the last piece of cash they'll ever get from me. Zens have no value for me anymore since what you can buy with them has no value to me. Even if they release even more OP pay to win ships in the store I think i'll sit there with what I have since it's an unending process.
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# 10
10-14-2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by weylandjuarez View Post
Nothing definitive (when is there ever?) but some of the Foundry authors have been talking about it here.

Perhaps Kirksplat could give you info on his sources.
Note: The only things actually confirmed for STO:

1. Spotlighted missions will have rewards attached soon(tm).

2. There is a general hope to bring in NW Foundry features.

3. DanStahl generally agrees that the Foundry needs a better rewards system.

Now, what is confirmed for NW can be found summarized at sbugc, with links to the Mapolis posts at the NW forums. I'm a bit too lazy to relink all of them, but you can find the original links at that page.

Here are the dev quotes regarding NW's Foundry rewards:

Quote:
Since rewards are based off of the average completion time of the quest, this kind of exploit wouldn?t work, and you would just get trash from the chest.
This is also why we don?t allow authors to directly reward XP for completing tasks. It exposes the Foundry to heavy exploitation.
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The average is calculated and constantly adjusted from the playtimes recorded from every player who goes through that quest, so simply going AFK wouldn?t necessarily increase your reward. It would take a coordinated effort from many separate accounts to artificially raise the average, and as soon as it starts to be exploited, the average will adjust accordingly and fix itself. On top of this, we intend to have some kind of cap on how many hours of Foundry content you can be rewarded for per day, so no exploit can really get too far.

There are a number of other things we?re doing under the hood to prevent botting and exploits, but I?m no programmer so I don?t understand them
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