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# 1 Retro Set Change, bad idea
10-16-2012, 07:12 PM
The retro set is now 3pc, Deflector, impulse, and shield, 2pc Hull heal 3pc SHield heal AND Tractor.

Now first we are losing the ability to run a good shield in combination with this heal. 2nd, We are losing the ability to run 2pc borg with 2 pc anything else. I think the consol should remain part of this set, and an alternative make it also include in the (dreadful) weapon set.

Dont believe me? Look.

This change is not good, focus on BOOSTING MACO and Omega Not nerfing Borg.

This is a post generaly recapping what most ppl will think when this goes live,

EDIT: I use regnerative shields, this change hits me very little compared to most ppl in STO.

Last edited by brokenmirror2012; 10-16-2012 at 09:38 PM.
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# 2
10-16-2012, 07:21 PM
Ah, goodie. I can finally be free of old tech. I'll be getting full Omega now, and with the new rep change this will be easier!
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# 3
10-16-2012, 07:26 PM
I say just reduce the cooldown on the borg tractor beam and leave the 4 pc set........then again the borg tractor is ****

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# 4
10-16-2012, 07:28 PM
Y'm glad for this nerf. MACO shields + 3pc borg is the commonest zombie build because its so OP. Highest cap shields, and crazy regen? Really?

At least now 2pc + MACO shield brings balance to the Federation. Good job Cryptic!
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# 5
10-16-2012, 09:05 PM
No, the change is a good one, for exactly the stated reasons.
Finally no more 3pc borg with ueber shields.

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# 6
10-16-2012, 09:16 PM
Then again....post a link or SOMETHING that says cryptic is doing this in the first place.

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# 7
10-17-2012, 06:03 AM
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Now first we are losing the ability to run a good shield in combination with this heal. 2nd, We are losing the ability to run 2pc borg with 2 pc anything else.
way overdue if you ask me, hope they nerf the heal stats of the assim set procs some more on top of that
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# 8
10-17-2012, 07:20 AM
Yeah this is way overdue. I would like to see the set bonusus of the MACO/OMEGA sets looked at as only the 2pc OMEGA is any good now, but it wouldn;t have mattered how good they where, as long as the borg was as it was no one would touch them. Survival abilities are just so much better in general.
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# 9
10-17-2012, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by brokenmirror2012 View Post
The retro set is now 3pc, Deflector, impulse, and shield, 2pc Hull heal 3pc SHield heal AND Tractor.

Now first we are losing the ability to run a good shield in combination with this heal. 2nd, We are losing the ability to run 2pc borg with 2 pc anything else. I think the consol should remain part of this set, and an alternative make it also include in the (dreadful) weapon set.

Dont believe me? Look.

This change is not good, focus on BOOSTING MACO and Omega Not nerfing Borg.

This is a post generaly recapping what most ppl will think when this goes live,

EDIT: I use regnerative shields, this change hits me very little compared to most ppl in STO.
I don't remember seeing anything about a Retro set change, did they ninja this in? Because if they did, I'm seriously jimmy-rustled. The 3-piece with a Covariant is the best tanking setup in the game if done properly. Why the heck did they nerf it? Did someone do a Spock's Brain on all of Cryptic?

Also, what happens with the Borg console?
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# 10
10-17-2012, 10:51 AM
Yes they ninja it in.
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