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Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 69
Hey guys

I have a science officer / Hegh'ta combo in (normal) STF's as an AOE probe/nanite/BOP buster and am having a lot of fun doing it. I play mostly in PUGs, so most of the time I scurry around filling in the gaps and taking care of the stuff other people let by them, kind of like a light cavalry unit.

I value being able to use the speed and maneuverability of the BOP to get me to where I need to go, so I can get back to defend the Kang when necessary, kill Nanites that are getting too close to generators, or destroy probes that someone else has let slip past them.

I'd like to be able to use my battle cloak to get places unmolested (which would help in all sorts of ways) but I'm having trouble doing it. It seems like the battle cloak only works half of the time and I'm being seriously punished by gates and other heavy hitters when I use it.

Does anyone have any suggestions that might help? Right now I'm only using my cloak to get a damage boost when I can and it feels like such a waste.

My BOP is a pretty standard setup with DHC's and a torp up front (I'm playing with polarons and chronitons at the moment) and turrets in the rear. I've managed to get the 3 piece Honor Guard XI set as well.
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,562
# 2
10-17-2012, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tudenom View Post
Hey guys

I have a science officer / Hegh'ta combo in (normal) STF's as an AOE probe/nanite/BOP buster and am having a lot of fun doing it. I play mostly in PUGs, so most of the time I scurry around filling in the gaps and taking care of the stuff other people let by them, kind of like a light cavalry unit.

I value being able to use the speed and maneuverability of the BOP to get me to where I need to go, so I can get back to defend the Kang when necessary, kill Nanites that are getting too close to generators, or destroy probes that someone else has let slip past them.

I'd like to be able to use my battle cloak to get places unmolested (which would help in all sorts of ways) but I'm having trouble doing it. It seems like the battle cloak only works half of the time and I'm being seriously punished by gates and other heavy hitters when I use it.

Does anyone have any suggestions that might help? Right now I'm only using my cloak to get a damage boost when I can and it feels like such a waste.

My BOP is a pretty standard setup with DHC's and a torp up front (I'm playing with polarons and chronitons at the moment) and turrets in the rear. I've managed to get the 3 piece Honor Guard XI set as well.
Switch the Deflector and engines to Borg Assimilated along with installing the console from the "assimilated" mission. If you've specced ANYTHING into Threat Control, you need to find the trainer and respec those points into "Stealth". Stay a Minimum of 5KM distant from Gates (KASN, ISN) and Cubes (CSN) when cloaked and they're "awake".

(I run a Fleet Norgh, avoiding the 'attentions' of those things in Elites until it's time is a major part of my gaming day when running the STF-six-pack).

Remember, when you're running a BoP, you're running a "Stealth ship", the KHG shield is great, the HG engines are very nice, but the three-piece-plus arrangement boosts survivability, which is what you need in a Heggie or any other BoP.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 437
# 3
10-17-2012, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickngo View Post
Switch the Deflector and engines to Borg Assimilated along with installing the console from the "assimilated" mission. If you've specced ANYTHING into Threat Control, you need to find the trainer and respec those points into "Stealth". Stay a Minimum of 5KM distant from Gates (KASN, ISN) and Cubes (CSN) when cloaked and they're "awake".

(I run a Fleet Norgh, avoiding the 'attentions' of those things in Elites until it's time is a major part of my gaming day when running the STF-six-pack).

Remember, when you're running a BoP, you're running a "Stealth ship", the KHG shield is great, the HG engines are very nice, but the three-piece-plus arrangement boosts survivability, which is what you need in a Heggie or any other BoP.
They are nerfing the borg set, so maybe another route is the way to go.

Ive found many XII purple gear on the exchange that is worth while to buy and use IMO
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 633
# 4
10-17-2012, 02:33 PM
Short anwser, the best way to use your battl;e cloak is not at all. You just don;t need it and all that time you spend swinging around and away to cloak i time you could and should be unloading on somthing.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 69
# 5
10-17-2012, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by carl103 View Post
Short anwser, the best way to use your battl;e cloak is not at all.
I agree, if the team is working the way they're supposed to be

The problem I'm running into is with PUGs, you just never know what's going to happen LOL. What starting me thinking about cloaks was an Infected run where one teammate went to the other side of the gate, blew up a nanite transformer, and then couldn't handle the spheres/probes that showed up to fix the transformer.

Once I noticed the probes/spheres going the other way I tried to get there as fast as possible to help out. I figured if I cloaked then maybe the gate would leave me alone and I could even use full impulse (he popped the farthest generator out so I had quite the distance to go). But unfortunately the gate still saw me through the cloak, so I couldn't use full impulse, and mauled me a bunch to boot. Needless to say, we failed the optional.

I guess cloaking in an STF is pretty situational and maybe I should just accept that.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 141
# 6
10-18-2012, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tudenom View Post
I guess cloaking in an STF is pretty situational and maybe I should just accept that.
This is pretty much the conclusion that I've come to
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 92
# 7
10-18-2012, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by carl103 View Post
Short anwser, the best way to use your battl;e cloak is not at all. You just don;t need it and all that time you spend swinging around and away to cloak i time you could and should be unloading on somthing.
While I do agree you dont need to use your cloak in STF's I use mine all the time whenever I can simply for the boost you get when you come out of cloak even if I only cloak for a few seconds....
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Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 69
# 8
10-17-2012, 02:11 PM
Thanks for the tips Patrickngo

Is the swap to the borg set (with KHG shield) just for survivabiliy, or are there extra benefits to using the assimilated deflector over the KHG deflector? The reason I ask is I'm not having problems blowing up during normal STF's (unless I get caught while cloaking). I think when I step up to elites I'll require a new DPS focussed build anyways.

The reason why I chose the KHG set over the borg set was becasue of the bounuses that the KHG set gives me to science related powers. Since I'm flying a sci bop I have limited science consoles and the KHG defector helps with that more than the assimilated deflector. Grav Well is my bread and butter, but I compliment that with Tyken's rift and Power Syphon sometimes when we're going up against tac cubes.

I guess I could swap out the KHG engine with the assimilated engine, which combined with the assimilated console would at least give me the borg hull proc in exchange for a few power points and the hot start (which hardly matters agains the borg anyways). The hull proc would help if I get nailed while cloaking.

I have a few points in stealth and no points in threat control, I already grab too much aggro as it is so I'll leave the threat control to the cruisers

I'll try keeping more than 5 km away from active heavy hitter enemies too, see if that helps.

Vinru821 - I'll have a second look at mk XII items too and see whats available and at what price.
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