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[6:30] Devoras@Devoras_Serenitus: Oki, so if i get people right here

[6:30] Devoras@Devoras_Serenitus: P2W consoles and ships Is NOT the problem with PvP

[6:30] Devoras@Devoras_Serenitus: did i interpret said folkd correct?

[6:30] Magikus of Fire@Sagikus: the idea is like this: a big chunk of the players are looking for F2P MMOs. they enter the game without planning to spend a single cent on it. Yet, they say it's not "fair" to have P2W ingame items

[6:30] Looney@galilleos: yes i would say so devoras


This might be coming from one person, and maybe dragged out of context. BUT, how many others are feeling the same or is this just utter rubbish?
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# 2
11-14-2012, 09:39 AM
Everyone already discussed this plenty of times, actually in the 1.5 years where you probably missed it all, MWO doesn't have these problems, come join it!

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# 3
11-14-2012, 09:52 AM
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Everyone already discussed this plenty of times, actually in the 1.5 years where you probably missed it all, MWO doesn't have these problems, come join it!

Ill join My Little Pony Online before i go to MWO. I got GW2 if i need something else
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11-14-2012, 10:13 AM
No, there is no real problem with P2W in STO. Obviously, if you fight against someone with an equal level of skill in the game, better equipment will give you an edge. But usually, it is the skill level that determines the outcome, not the P2W.
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# 5
11-14-2012, 10:22 AM
"No, there is no real problem with P2W in STO. Obviously, if you fight against someone with an equal level of skill in the game, better equipment will give you an edge. But usually, it is the skill level that determines the outcome, not the P2W."

Thank you, this needs to be further emphasized AND become my new forum sig.
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# 6
11-14-2012, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by sophlogimo View Post
No, there is no real problem with P2W in STO. Obviously, if you fight against someone with an equal level of skill in the game, better equipment will give you an edge. But usually, it is the skill level that determines the outcome, not the P2W.
So you have never been grav pulsed for 50 seconds? Wow......
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# 7
11-14-2012, 10:46 AM
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So you have never been grav pulsed for 50 seconds? Wow......
Ye, grav pulsed in a carrier with a jem bug behind you. NO skill in the world is going to save you from that.
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# 8
11-14-2012, 10:28 AM
A valid point as to why p2w sucks?
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# 9
11-14-2012, 02:04 PM
So in reading the convo in the OP - it looks like the typical excuse for those that do use the cheese.

"P2W is not the problem with PvP in STO. Players' refusal to buy P2W stuff and then complaining about the P2W stuff is the problem."

You have to wonder, in the end, how they would actually feel about it if everybody did buy it. How playable PvP would be... did they really think that through - or - are they just trying to make excuses?

F2P does not mean a game has to be P2W. Certainly a game like STO, one would think it could be F2P without the P2W. All the possible fluff, all the potential content packs, various account services, etc, etc, etc... it's Star Trek.

But no, it's munchkin gaming instead. Instead of Scotty, Spock, and Bones coming up with something to save the day - they've grabbed the credit card and headed to the store to buy something. I mean, c'mon - try to imagine an episode or even a movie playing out like day to day life in STO does, eh?

It'd be more like a group of teenage girls at the local mall... it's Mall Trek - not Star Trek.
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