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before season 7 went live we where told that the conversion of all our borg tech, EDCs and such where to be locked until T5 of the rep system, something I felt was unfair and thus I traded in all mine. then when season 7 hits we're told it's T3, ok, that's a little more fair but it's to late now I've sold it all off and I have no plans to keep running the STFs just to re-unlock what I worked hard for to start with... Now we're being told oh, you can open them when ever, what the heck I'm feeling cheated and want to know what the devs have to say.

why is it that long term dedicated supporters of the game are repeatedly feeling like they are being kirk drop kicked when they are down.

I'm sure there is no way a roll back to my former status would be possible without losing something, and I'm sure the devs won't take the time to roll me step by step until I can go, "Yes that's acceptable"

I'm not pleased with the state of things in the game and simply would like to hear the dev's take on everything. I'm a reasonable person, so here's my ear, sing me a song Devs
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Last edited by allysnowleopard; 11-21-2012 at 12:17 AM. Reason: Filed under: Doom/Gloom
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# 2
11-21-2012, 12:20 AM
From the start, the dev team said that they would be keeping an eye on the changes and that they were prepared to make adjustments. They were very open about this. They put the conversion system up on tribble before it went live. One poster , can't remember who, consolodated the data and came up with the conversion formula and posted it here.

The not being able to open your Omega Crate was a BIG point of contention. A LOT of people called for it to be openable right away. Sorry, you are feeling shafted, but when they made all the information to make an informed decision available before the fact, and when they openly said that these systems were open to change, I find it hard to say that they 'cheated' anyone.

Just my 2 latinums.
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# 3
11-21-2012, 12:28 AM
I have to agree with Hippiejon...

It's like spill't milk and all that...

I understand that your ticked-off, but it's a bit late to be griping now.

Everybody had a chance to make up their own minds at to what to do, then make a choice...

What's done is done.
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# 4
11-21-2012, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by daveyny View Post
I have to agree with Hippiejon...

It's like spill't milk and all that...

I understand that your ticked-off, but it's a bit late to be griping now.

Everybody had a chance to make up their own minds at to what to do, then make a choice...

What's done is done.
Agreed, it's spill't milk, and not that good blue milk you find in the outer rim either. but that nasty powdered stuff. :p

I could live the the conversion rate. and I'm not asking for a roll back. I'm simply asking the devs as to why we the lifeblood of the game are being left to feel ( not saying we are out of malice) like this.
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# 5
11-21-2012, 12:45 AM
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I'm simply asking the devs as to why we the lifeblood of the game are being left to feel ( not saying we are out of malice) like this.
How can the Devs answer Why you 'feel' the way you do?
That seems a matter for personal reflection.

The change you have a problem with is something that a large number of people asked for, among many other changes. Why would they be unhappy with the Dev Team actually doing what they asked for ?

I'm not trying to be part of the Cryptic Defense Force here, but I really don't understand the basis of your complaint.
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# 6
11-21-2012, 12:52 AM
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How can the Devs answer Why you 'feel' the way you do?
That seems a matter for personal reflection.

The change you have a problem with is something that a large number of people asked for, among many other changes. Why would they be unhappy with the Dev Team actually doing what they asked for ?

I'm not trying to be part of the Cryptic Defense Force here, but I really don't understand the basis of your complaint.
I get what He/She is saying... and have a bit of affinity in that regard...

It's just that at this point, there's going to be very little sympathy heading in that direction.

One may have to be satisfied with the fact that one can "gripe" and get it off ones chest...

That's pretty much the only thing that this will accomplish.
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# 7
11-21-2012, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hippiejon View Post
How can the Devs answer Why you 'feel' the way you do?
That seems a matter for personal reflection.

The change you have a problem with is something that a large number of people asked for, among many other changes. Why would they be unhappy with the Dev Team actually doing what they asked for ?

I'm not trying to be part of the Cryptic Defense Force here, but I really don't understand the basis of your complaint.
*sets phaser to kill and aims at own head*

the question isn't " Why do I keep feeling like this " I know why I keep feeling like this, the question is why it even the case in the first pace that we should feel this way. It comes off like they go, oh, lets force them to only turn left, but those who are used to having the option of turning left or not want to go right, and out of sure habit turn right and hit the wall, and then after seeing how bad the go left only mandate has panned out they say, you can got right again, but it's to late, you've done crashed into the wall and done broke every bone in your body.

I'm being overly dramatic I know. I just feel they should of had the foresight to realize they where doing more harm then good :p We're three years on, seven seasons in and every season they do the most unpopular of the plans they could of first and then back paddle when they get called on it.

this is me just asking Why is it always seem to be the worst Choice A when Choice B or C where always the better choices, it's not like they had to blindly pick from three folders of what to do.
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# 8
11-21-2012, 12:46 AM
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also since you already traded all your techs in, you already got the best result, so where is the problem?
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Originally Posted by hippiejon View Post
Quite True this statement.
The conversion was terrible.
Once the formula was figured out and posted (like a day b4 S7 went live) , people were speeding to trade in whatever they had left.
came out to something like 98k in Dt. and a bunch of varied energy space weapons. that
I didn't really need... just trying my best not to rage quite over all this, being disabled I don't get out much and this is honestly one of my few meaningful escapes.
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# 9
11-21-2012, 12:29 AM
also since you already traded all your techs in, you already got the best result, so where is the problem?
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# 10
11-21-2012, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by grievas View Post
also since you already traded all your techs in, you already got the best result, so where is the problem?
Quite True this statement.
The conversion was terrible.
Once the formula was figured out and posted (like a day b4 S7 went live) , people were speeding to trade in whatever they had left.
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