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# 1 How Important Is Fun?
11-25-2012, 06:17 AM
Someone asked this recently in OPvP. I am surprised it didn't make it to the forums so I'm going to steal it. Simply put, how important is fun?

What is your idea of fun?

How important is it to you that other people have fun, including your friends but also your opponents?

Try to think honestly about it please.
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Captain
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# 2
11-25-2012, 06:26 AM
hale,

fun is the most important aspect of killing bad guys. its why we got into gaming. its why we love trek. they are 2 of the most fun things i can think of.

edit: fun to me, is a joint adventure for adversaries that ends in enjoyment of gameplay regardless of the outcome.

you can have fun, it can be a challenge. you can have fun, it could be relaxing.

fun is what keeps most of us here. no fun is why i think a lot of us are playing other games.

have fun, kill bad guys

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# 3
11-25-2012, 08:55 AM
Fun is pretty much the main reason I PvP. I enjoy the challenge, especially when compared to the mind numbingly easy PvE.

I enjoy fights that are gimmickless (no P2W consoles, no trics, no SNB doffs etc, no power siphons), just using skill and intelligence (with regards to builds) and are either pug vs pug or premade vs premade. Basically I enjoy a fair fight, whether or not that leads to me being blown up.

Personally I find I get more enjoyment out of pug matches, since there's more self reliance and hinges more upon individual skill.

On the other hand getting focus fired while getting numerous hold/slow/stun disable isn't remotely enjoyable, since it takes control away from me. This is infact one of the reasons I primarily run an escort instead of a cruiser, as APO means I can break most holds and slows.

Also to be honest I find cross healing to be an added bore. Watching someone who has zero skill being kept on lifesupport by his team is annoying. Don't get me wrong, as long as it's available in the game I'll cross heal, I just find it makes a match less enjoyable.
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# 4
11-25-2012, 09:43 AM
Fun for some douchebags, is queuing up as a premade with FOTM to grief people.

And then disappearing from queues when the FOTM gets fixed, only to reappear in the queues when another FOTM appears.


I like a fairly clean match with minimal science crap. More importantly, I want my teammates to actually help each other instead of behaving like selfish douchebags out there.


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# 5
11-25-2012, 10:34 AM
First, Snoge00f, what is FOTM? I can't quite figure out what you mean.

Second, I REALLY wanna make a joke here.

Third, I find the most fun to be an exhilarating match, using skill and effort to try and defeat the opponent, not just cheap tactics. It's really very exciting when another player and I, in an arena or something start to duke it out, doing an unexpected 1 v 1. Sometimes I kill that player, sometimes that player kills me. Either way, it''s almost always extremely enjoyable.

When it starts getting into paid-for consoles and ships, with every bit of cheapness under the sun to win, then it loses it fun. When the enemies are weak, without any to no skill or just AFKing, then it also can lose it's fun.

To me, PvP is fun, and as long as it stays fun and enjoyable, I'll do it. When it loses it's fun, I stop doing it.

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# 6
11-26-2012, 09:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mimey2 View Post
First, Snoge00f, what is FOTM? I can't quite figure out what you mean.
FOTM, means flavor of the month. It basically refers to the latest power or combination of powers that are irresistible. Kinda like TBR was.


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# 7
11-25-2012, 10:39 AM
The real fun is...to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
Seriously, fun means do not give any importance to an humiliating defeat when you have done everything possible to prevent it.
Fun means to lose against the evul Klinguns in arena and having been the best Fed.
Fun means to vaporize a Vo'quv or a Kar'fi and then escape from the targ packs (Bops and Raptors) vengeance.
Fun means to congratulate your enemy when he defeat you with skill and cleverness and without dirty tricks.
Fun means to remember this is a game and we are all here to have just fun!
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# 8
11-25-2012, 10:40 AM
I'm all about having fun and up for a good challenge.

It's when I am faced with the usual suspects that throw everything considered broken at me, including the kitchen sink that I loose my cool.

I don't mind losing.

I do mind...

... when it's as a result of someone that is intentionally running a known power that's only effect is causing graphic issues, DC and lag.

... when it's someone that corkscrews their way to the ceiling, thinking "Ooooy look at how cool I am..."

... when I am in a match where the opposing team relies on every broken power to justify their inflated sense of superiority.

Last edited by drkfrontiers; 11-25-2012 at 10:44 AM.
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# 9
11-25-2012, 10:54 AM
FOTM = Flavour (no not flavor bloody!) of the month.

Like e.g the TBR spam or FAW spam before that again.

Fun? When i get to pew pew!
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# 10
11-27-2012, 12:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevehale View Post
Someone asked this recently in OPvP. I am surprised it didn't make it to the forums so I'm going to steal it. Simply put, how important is fun?

What is your idea of fun?

How important is it to you that other people have fun, including your friends but also your opponents?

Try to think honestly about it please.
It is the whole purpose of our activity in the game. We do all this for fun, and nothing but fun. We are playing games together, so everybody should have fun.

And fun in PvP means, for me, to command your ship in ways you like, optimizing those ways and get the best out of them.
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