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Trek has had many many characters over the years and some have hit the mark others have really missed. Even aseries like Voyager that all in all wasnt too popular had some great supporting characters but even TNG and TOS had there annoying characters. Here are my picks:

T'pol is in my opinion the worst portrayed regular on any of the shows. Shure the actress who played her was attractive and apparently a Trek fan, but she needed acting lessons not to mention voice lessons. She is basically a low rent 7 of nine and Seven of nine was a really stiff difficult character to appreciate unless you are a 16 year old boy.... Just a weak performance overall.

My second choice will polarize people but it would be Worf. I dont blame Mr. Dorn its the writers he is a stiff one dimensional character who is also a deadbeat dad and an all around grumpy misfit. I dont know how he managed to get invited to all those poker games when in real life everyone would have just gossiped about him behind his back. I also hate thate almost every sci fi type show has a "Worf" a dead serious honor bound warrior type... Such an overused character that it almost makes Neelix refreshing.

Runners up: 70f9, Janeway, Chacotay

Third is a likeable well portrayed character who is quite fine its just hes kinda a sad loser. Geordi Laforge, well portrayed, charismatic preformance but he's a blind guy who cant get a date, only has relationships with holograms and his best friend is a robot. Its like they wrote the character to make fun of nerds (and hopefully not the disabled) in a passive aggressive way. Oh and they gave him way to many technobabble lines poor Levar..

So those are my loosely chosen 3 although Laforge is more of an observation than a choice. What are yours?
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Last edited by lincolninspace; 11-26-2012 at 06:16 PM.
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# 2
11-26-2012, 06:52 PM
Hmm... most of the characters I didn't like were written to be loathed (Kai Winn, etc.)

I guess Kira Nerys probably got under my skin the worst of the characters meant to be liked. Maybe because she reminds me of my aunt and is a bossy, um, biddy?

Malcolm Reed was pretty bad, too. Seemed to be a whiney brat.

I know being the pilot episode and therefore sort of a test run this may not count but Counselor Troi in Encounter at Farpoint was painful to watch. Crippling emotional turmoil every time the city/alien so much as sighed. Thankfully, they toned it down to her just being empathic and not psychotic in later episodes.

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# 3
11-26-2012, 07:05 PM
I have several that fall into this category. I would be happy never to see them again as a result of a transporter accident ...

Dr. Pulaski
Admiral Nechayev
Keiko Obrien
Captain Jellico
Kai Winn

I get angry just writting this list!
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# 4
11-26-2012, 07:16 PM
Yes Dr. Pulaski needed to be kicked out of an airlock.
And If i lived in that universe and was on that ship I would have picked on Wesley Crusher every chance i got. He was a big (meaow)
Kira was a bossey *****
Worf was the Man. Worf has been in more star trek episodes than any other person. (look it up)
And the First Chief Eng on TNG (the one with the Beard)
Friggin Nog and his Son.
And Tasha Yar's Daughter.
And Tomalach
Nelix and Kess both annoying
and number one most hated is: Troys mother!!!!!

Last edited by admgreer; 11-26-2012 at 07:19 PM.
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# 5
11-26-2012, 07:34 PM
My top 5:

5) Everyone on ENT. Good lord the writing on that show was awful. As much as I like the actors themselves, that show was hardly a showcase of their talents.

4) Kess. Any character that is essentially written specifically to die, with no suspense at all, just screams bad writing. I mean, the Ocampan lifespan is mentioned in the very first episode, so its clear as soon as she is introduced that she is going to die if the series lasts long at all; it does, and she does. No intrigue whatsoever, and no value placed on the character's life. Adding her 'abilities' just made it worse.

3) Wesley Crusher. *shudder* The Golden Child, the Token Kid, the most annoying, stereotypical character I ever thought I'd see in any series...

2) Chakotay. ...until this guy. Native American culture may be underappreciated, but there is no way in hell that any writer could make a deeply spiritual Native American Maquis seem realistic. This is a universe in which Humans have learned pretty much everything there is to learn about each other (hence the whole exploring for new people to learn about thing...) and you're trying to convince me that Native Americans are *still* mysterious and "different," even in the 24th century? Gene Roddenberry would not approve.

1) Troi. I remember an interview Jonathan Frakes and Patrick Stewart did together, where they were talking about nicknames for cast members' characters. Troi was "the one who feels ****." That pretty much sums her up. I'm feeling plenty of **** just thinking about her...
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# 6
11-26-2012, 07:39 PM
Starting from the most recent...

JJ Trek: Kirk. Pine tried his best, but he just came across like a moody kid. The rest were too development thin to get a feel for. McCoy was gold.

ENT: Any crew member that wasn't Phlox or Archer. They were all some combination of boring and derivative. Even the dog.

Shran, on the other hand, was gold. I'd have loved to have seen him replace T'Boobs.

Voy: Kes and Torres. Seven had some decent episodes around her, but the other supporting female characters were just there for the menfolks to obsess over. It's a common problem throughout all of Trek. I didn't like Chakotay until I found out that Beltran was half-assing it as a way to get back at the writers.

DS9: Jadzia, Martok, Gowron. Too smug, and two cartoons.

TNG: Troi, Guinan, Crusher, Lwaxana. More characters there to either be obsessed over by the menfolks or to provide boobs to look at in the background.

TOS: No one. The show was perfection. The sun source of all that came after it.

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Okay, maybe the space hippies.
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# 7
11-26-2012, 09:18 PM
Enterprise has by far the worst characters. T'its wasn't bad per-say, she was written as a ?$&%^!@* and pulled it off a little too well. That, and she was... well... a walking pair of ****. Not that the men faired much better. Seriously. Watch the decontamination chamber scene from Broken Bow and tell me with a strait face that didn't feel like the opening to a porno. Go ahead and try. I dare you.

This show also wins the award for having the dumbest Enterprise.

In my opinion Neelix is the guy you're glad you're friends with, but you would never under any circumstances introduce him to your other friends. At least he was capable of some sort of competence. Janeway on the other hand.... how did she become a captain? Seriously, how? I swear she is good at everything BUT being a captain. Harry Kim was a bad combination of Sulu and LaForge with the awesome of neither. The writers never gave him the Character Development they should have.

Kes was a bad idea. Her character, how she was introduced, how she was removed... just.. bad...

Dr. Pulaski was bad, Troi was annoying for a while, but she had her moments of awesome. Wesley Crusher was the worst for a long time, but even he has been surpassed by the worst, most god awful, bad, terrible, horrible no good Star Trek character of ALL TIME.

JJTrek Uhura.

I cannot stand JJTrek Uhura. There is nothing good about JJTrek Uhura. Sure the actress is good looking, but nothing, nothing can redeem JJTrek Uhura in my eyes.

Real Uhura was elegant, ladylike and attractive. She teased Spock for fun, she liked cute things, she was competent and capable, but screwed up, failed, and had her limits. She felt like a real person.

JJTrek Uhura is a bossy sarcastic brat. She seems unbelievably competent, she looks more like a Star Trek themed hooker than a Star Trek character, the whole relationship with Spock is silly, nothing about her is sympathetic or redeeming. Say what you will Wesley Crusher, but at least he was an original character. They took the real Uhura and butchered her into the all the bad parts of Wesley and T'its. Her entire being feels manufactured for the explosion and boob fueled generation.

Real Uhura was someone to look up too. JJTrek Uhura is someone you ask "Cash or Credit?"
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# 8
11-26-2012, 07:13 PM
From each series?

TOS: Nurse Chapel. I just can't get over the fact that she only got her job because she was sleeping with Gene Roddenberry. That and she's just dull. She is either pining for her crazy mad scientist husband in one episode, or pining after Spock in another.

TNG: Counselor Troi is by far the most useless character in the show and annoying to boot. Worf may have been one-dimensional but he at least served a point. And he grows on you. It took the writers six years before they insisted Troi wear a ******n uniform.

EDIT OH wow I totally forgot Dr Pulaski. Yeah it's a toss up between her and Troi. Troi is more likeable but is around a lot longer. Pulaski is really, really unlikeable but she's only around for one season.

DS9: This show is tied with TOS for being my favourite Trek show. I honestly can't finger anyone who I didn't at least like a little. If I were forced to pick someone it might be either Chief O'Brien or Dax (any of 'em). That's not to say I didn't like them, but I didn't like them as much as the other characters.

EDIT And I totally forgot Keiko O'Brien. Yeah she's totally the least favourite on this show.

VOY: Neelix. By far. Although Voyager isn't one of my favourite shows, I still kinda sorta like it and a big part of that is the cast is very likeable. Neelix just rubbed me the wrong way. I think they made a mistake making him a kind of a joke, comic relief sort of character. That said, Chakotay is a close second. He's a better character when he's not a walking talking Native American stereotype.

ENT: Everyone. I hate this show so much.

Last edited by stofsk; 11-26-2012 at 07:16 PM.
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# 9
11-27-2012, 07:47 AM
As much as it would be easy to say Wesley Crusher, I just can't bring myself to hate Beverly and Jean-Luc's lovechild...

So instead, I think I'd have to go with McCoy. His anti-Vulcan racism always bugged me

Next on my list would be Gowron. Never liked his crazy bug-eyed stares, and enjoyed the bit where Worf killed him...

Totally agree with the OP about T'Pol... Totally flat ( ) character straight out of Brannon Braga's w@nk bank... Totally expoitative use of a woman (can't bring myself to call Jolene an actress, but she deserved better treatment than she got...)

Got to disagree about Worf though... He was a very multifaceted character: A Klingon raised by Humans, so tried to over-compensate and be the UberKlingon. He was always my favorite TNG character, but I don't think he really came into his own till DS-9... Totally agree about that character type being over-used now *cough*Teal'C*cough* To go theoretical for a moment, I would love to see Worf get into a fist-fight with Tyr Anasazi... That would be interesting... I'd also like to see Worf interact with Richard Sharpe, I think they'd actually make a pretty solid bromance of mutual respect for each other as warriors.

[Edit to add]
I hated the way Seven of Nine was de-assimilated. I understand that Jeri Ryan was hired to boost ratings, and as Bridge Bunnies go, the first scene in which she's seen in the silver bodysuit... Wow... Pon Farr night in the Vulcan Nightclub... But as a character, they really should've kept her as Full Borg...

Last edited by marcusdkane; 11-27-2012 at 08:06 AM.
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# 10
11-27-2012, 07:33 PM
Janeway or Seven? Well Seven at least had nice T&A. Janeway had nothing.

On every level Janeway's character was a failure. Her character was intended to be something that insecure white American women middle-managers would identify with, and in creating such a character, she took on all of the most repugnant characteristics of those people, while never evolving them beyond that level.

-insecure
-erratic
-pig-headed
-sentimental
-lacking in clear moral principles
-a bully and coward

Ever notice how Janeway only tries talking when she feels she is at a disadvantage? If she doesn't feel she is, then she doesn't bother trying to be reasonable. And when she does talk, she seems more interested in scoring points than in getting the other side to work with her. Example: "Year of Hell" or "Caretaker".

That is how a coward and bully behaves. Arrogant when one has the advantage, self-pitying when others do.

Janeway's character itself is vacuous. She's from Indiana (meant to be a cute country girl but more comes off as cultureless PWT); her interests include Velocity and, um, having dialogues with a virtual daVinci. She's supposed to have a scientific background, but that background never manifests itself in her character other than as a technical skill occasionally used as a plot device.

Janeway's character often feels like it is driven by the plot, rather than the other way around. She behaves in totally contradictory ways in similar situations. Some days she's charitable, others she doesn't give a sheet for anything other than her own selfish goals. Some days she's diplomatic, others she just says, "well my ship is more powerful than yours so FU". Some days she is all about protecting sentient life, others she glibly tells the Dr to delete himself on command.

In the utopian 24th century, she still hasn't gotten over having breasts, so she insists everyone address her as "ma'am". She seems incapable of forming relationships with men other than romance (Chatokay) or "nice guy" (Tuvok). And she's big into public displays of affection, something that makes her look weak, unprofessional, overly caught up in herself, and without respect for others' boundaries.

Even her personal appearance is silly. A ponytail? Really? Ponytails are for 15-year-old girls who are still giggling with their friends trying figure out what sex is. And no that is not a uniquely female issue, if Spock actually had an outrageous goatee throughout the entire series no one could take him seriously. Same as if we had a Trek regular who had a haircut out of Final Fantasy VII.

Combined with her computer-like voice, it just creates the overwhelming impression that Janeway is an uneasy character with no real personal identity. She doesn't know who she is (this ironically and perhaps unintentionally becoming a plot device in the last episode) or what she wants.

So what you have, is a protagonist who seems more like a stage extra: always driven by everything and everyone else in the plot.

Other bad characters:

-Wesley Crusher...insecure Mary Sue goody two-shoes that no man growing up would ever identify with because he has no sexuality, no "bad side", no real doubts or concerns or ambitions other than pure 'emo'...in short, Wesley Crusher was a born nobody with an IQ of 200.

-Benjamin Sisko...comes off as military trash, basically a thug, an angry black man who is quick to turn his frustration into intransigence, intimidation, and physical violence, giving life to racial stereotypes that are very bad in all theaters to say nothing of Trek. Having an unplanned pregnancy when your OTHER kid is like 20?

-Chatokay...was a bad character for the reason that he was too unbalanced and without any real weaknesses. If TNG ever needed a Christopher Pike, Chatokay would have been great understudy. On VOY, Chatokay felt like Picard wandering onto the set of Jersey Shore, or like Dr Strangelove's Lionel Mandrake and Jack Ripper co-starring in a sober drama instead of a comedy. A sane, well-rounded guy trying to make drama with a cast of high schoolers felt as herky-jerky as it would in real life.

-Tuvok...I hated Tuvok. Supposed to be Vulcan, logical being, but just comes off as a thug and a jerk. Whimsically mean. Habitual liar. Fanatically loyal to Janeway. Pedantic without being smart, wise or well-informed. Tuvok's character is completely 'illogical' in every sense because his behavior is completely irrational. Spock, of course, knew that "tolerance is logical" and was always portrayed as a scholar and gentleman for that reason. Tuvok just comes off as an angry black Vulcan with an attitude problem - again, I want to emphasize that I am not a racist...television is...and I think that is wrong.

Last edited by aestu; 11-27-2012 at 07:48 PM.
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