Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 245
# 1 My HEC build.
12-02-2012, 03:46 PM
This is my beam/torp boat build for the HEC. I do mostly PvE and so far it's been pretty darned effective.

Fore:

3 blue Phaser Beam Array Mk XI [Dmg]x2
1 blue Photon Torpedo Launcher Mk XI [Dmg]x2

Aft:

2 blue Phaser Beam Array Mk XI [Dmg]x2
1 blue Photon Torpedo Launcher Mk XI [Dmg]x2

Deflector:

Blue Positron Deflector Array [SIF] [ShdS]

Engines:

Efficient Impulse Engines Mk XI

Shield:

Paratronic Shield Array Mk X!

Devices:

Red Matter Capacitor
Subspace Field Modulator

Engineering Consoles:

Torpedo Point Defense System
Blue EPS Flow Regulator Mk X
Blue Neutronium Alloy Mk X

Science Consoles:

Blue Shield Emitter Amplifier Mk XI
Blue Shield Emitter Amplifier Mk XI

Tactical Consoles:


Purple Photon Detonation Assembly Mk XI
Blue Photon Detonation Assembly Mk XI
Blue Phaser Relay Mk XI
Blue Phaser Relay Mk XI

Hangar:

Default Peregrines (Working on Advanced)

BOFFs:

Commander Tac:

Torp Spread I
Beam Fire At Will II
Torp High Yield III
APO II

Lt. Tac:

Tactical Team I
Beam Overload II

Ensign Tac:

Torp High Yield I

Lt.Cmdr Eng:

Engineering Team I
EPtoS II
RSP II

Lt. Science:

JTS I
TSS II

With this setup, I'm currently getting:

43,965 hull
9.460 shield faces
15.4% kinetic Resist
25% all other resist

Any input/advice? I don't want to use cannons on this particular build because something irks me about using cannons on a ship this size..

Last edited by wunjee; 12-02-2012 at 08:08 PM.
Captain
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# 2
12-02-2012, 04:21 PM
As long as you're aware that going full beamscort will negatively impact your DPS, I don't really have anything to say about that...

Energy Distribution Manifolds and Warhead Yield Chambers are significantly less effective than the type-based consoles, and [Dmg]x2 is a fairly weak modifier for your weapons ([Acc]x2 or x3 is better, but rarer).
Lt. Commander
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Posts: 245
# 3
12-02-2012, 04:25 PM
From my understanding, tho, stacking specific weapon-type consoles gives you diminishing returns? Would it be more effective to stack 2 phaser relays instead of a phaser relay and a directed energy console?
Commander
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# 4
12-02-2012, 07:04 PM
There is no diminishing returns on tac consoles, and beam arrays on an escort is an awful idea. While it might not "feel right" to you to use cannons on the ship, the purpose of escorts is to deal damage and you're significantly lowering your damage by using beams.
Lt. Commander
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# 5
12-02-2012, 08:06 PM
Quote:
There is no diminishing returns on tac consoles
Glad that got changed back, then. Thanks for that info. Updated build.
Career Officer
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 246
# 6
12-03-2012, 06:05 AM
First of let me say this, i think that a carrier escort is the worst idea, it defeats the purpse of being a carrier by putting it on an escort.

secondly in pve you can throw together anything and it will be successful so that's not a good barometer of power.

personally i liked your original build, because it has a unique taste to it, just like mine, i use beams aswell and I fly an escort. The problem I see is that gamers like to put themselves in boxes and then have the unmitigated gull to say they are good or even "Elite". While looking like this guy and that guy and that guy over there and hey you in the back, yeah you, can you stand up a sec? Yeah, that guy back there doesn't he look familiar? ooooh that's right he looks like you, acts like you, plays like you, but has the audacity to tell everyone else they are doing it wrong?

If anyone tells you that using your beams is weak, laugh at them activate bfaw and ask them if they can ht multiple enemies in PVE and PVP for 8 seconds of gloom and doom only to rinse and repeat in 6 seconds. Oh wait? They can't? Ah, that sucks. so when you get trapped in the tholian web i guess you just wait and let them shoot at you like fish in a barrel? sounds rough to me.

I enjoy a good light show and I lights it up baby, forth of July in downtown, I'm talking about galloping baby

I cn target this guy and strip that guy on the other side of the screen and every other eney i can't see of their sheilds or atleast making them use their skills prematurely and allowing the twins (Everyone that looks the same, acts the same and fights the same, and you will see it, you will see them using their 3-4 quads and turrets since for some reason everyone has to do that to be effective.) Ent! Wrong, in elites and pvp I get invites left and right and I use beams. I have to turn them down daily so I can get in some Rommy for reping.

You may not get all the respect you deserve for your aid but because you didn't look like this guy or that guy you contributed to every ones win and survival even if they don't notice you crushing the enemy sheilds with random broadsides.

So in closing I'm telling you, be you and don't drink the kool-aid, if you like a set and i like your set then just repo it and rep it hard, make people wonder in antipros are better then phasers, make them wonder if duals are better then beams
Captain
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# 7
12-03-2012, 09:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wunjee View Post
This is my beam/torp boat build for the HEC. I do mostly PvE and so far it's been pretty darned effective.

Any input/advice? I don't want to use cannons on this particular build because something irks me about using cannons on a ship this size..
Hi and welcome to the forums. This is largely a community of min/maxers who are looking to improve their builds with the final goal of efficiency, be it in the form of dps or... well, what else is there, really, if we're talking STO S7?

Your build is sub-optimal. You have stated you have unnamed personal objections to DHC use. So my input/advice is to either enjoy your build as-is, which could be improved dramatically, or to take the advice you will receive here, which will include dumping the beams for your escort.
Lt. Commander
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Posts: 159
# 8
12-03-2012, 10:16 AM
Beams dont do the dmg cannons do. Now if you want beams play how you like its your game.

See cruisers that turn really slow use beams. They hit more targets but for a lot less dmg. An escort can turn quickly and get its cannons on target and using cannon rapid fire can get all cannons an turrets shooting at one target and shield facing. As an escort you are wastin your turn rate and the only time you can get all your beams on one target is to broad side. And this build has only 5 beams.

So less weapon slots than a cruiser you are not doing as muchdmg as them.

You have a superior turn rate that you are wasting because beams dont require it.

But for this build. Drop the torp tact consoles go strictly beam. It will help you more. And torps hit hull so inconsistantly that that those consoles are wasted for the most part.
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