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Join Date: Aug 2012
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At the start of the year:

Corsair Flight-Deck Cruiser (KDF)
Dacoit Flight-Deck Cruiser (KDF)
Kar'Fi Battle Carrier (KDF)
Marauder Flight-Deck Cruiser (KDF)
Vo'quv Carrier (KDF)


Currently:

Corsair Flight-Deck Cruiser (KDF)
Corsair Flight-Deck Cruiser Retrofit (KDF)
Fleet Corsair Flight-Deck Cruiser Retrofit (KDF)
Dacoit Flight-Deck Cruiser (KDF)
Kar'Fi Battle Carrier (KDF)
Marauder Flight-Deck Cruiser (KDF)
Vo'quv Carrier (KDF)
Fleet Vo'quv Carrier (KDF)

Caitian Atrox Carrier (Fed)
Heavy Escort Carrier (Fed)
Fleet Heavy Escort Carrier (Fed)
Multi-Mission Reconnaissance Explorer (Fed)
Multi-Mission Strategic Explorer (Fed)
Multi-Mission Surveillance Explorer (Fed)

Tholian Recluse Carrier (Fed/KDF)

Yep, we've gone from 5 ships to 15 ships this year.

The Dec 2012 Ask Cryptic confirms the next lockbox is going to be a Dominion themed box. Dominion? That seems out of place, no? We're in the midst of the big S7 Romulan push, the talk about the next FE even revolves the Romulans in the sense of the sacrifice of the Enterprise-C stopped war between Starfleet and the KDF.

We're kind of buried in Romulans (and Remans) at the moment - there's also that pesky Tal Shiar and the Iconians story that's playing out. So yeah, outside of the ongoing Borg thing - the Romulan's are where it's at!

Well, except - the Winter Event. A Breen ship. Updated work done on the Breen ships. A console that can be used in any Breen ship (but there's only one, eh?) . . . and tada, you've got the Dominion. What? Say what? Yes, the Breen joined the Dominion - fought along with them and the Cardassians against the Alpha Quadrant.

So will the Dominion lockbox be a Jem Heavy Escort? A Jem Battle Cruiser? Or perhaps - just maybe - just perhaps...

Sarr Theln Warship (Fed/KDF)

...are we looking at another carrier?

Personally, I don't think so. I figure it will either be a Jem Heavy Escort or the Battle Cruiser. That's based on these notes from Tribble Maintenance:

  • All "Phased Polaron Beam Array" items have had their display names changed to "Dominion Polaron Beam Array"
  • All "Phased Polaron Dual Cannon" items have had their display names changed to "Dominion Polaron Dual Cannon"

But still, I could be wrong. What effect do you think the Sarr Theln would have on PvP, eh? Bleth Choas fighters... hrmm, yeah...

edit: Of course, that doesn't mean that the Sarr Theln won't end up an 800 Lobi carrier like the Recluse, eh? Would be kind of ironic for those that Lobi'd there way to a Chel Grett for around 1k Lobi...ahem.
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# 2
12-15-2012, 08:48 AM
You have no idea how hard I'd be all over the Jem Heavy Escort. Give me the Battleship too, I'm a greedy kid and it's Christmas after all.

I just hope this doesn't rule out a true Dom faction...

EDIT: Also, it's kinda trolling to tell people we're getting a Dom ship and then releasing a Breen one. I mean yeah it's technically true and all, but why phrase it like that and intentionally mislead people lol.

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# 3
12-15-2012, 09:06 AM
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EDIT: Also, it's kinda trolling to tell people we're getting a Dom ship and then releasing a Breen one. I mean yeah it's technically true and all, but why phrase it like that and intentionally mislead people lol.
I was definitely kind of surprised that Stahl said it was going to be a Dominion lockbox. I expected it to be a Breen one - but as folks pointed out in other threads discussing it, it being a Dominion lockbox doesn't rule out a Breen ship.

With the work done on the Breen ships - the note about the Breen console, I really expected the next one to be Breen.

There are a bunch of mixed things they could do with it.

Lobi the Sarr Theln, lockbox either the Heavy Escort or the Battle Cruiser, Lobi additional Breen consoles, lockbox the Nadeon (KDF) and some KDF console (Fed), etc, etc, etc.

The Dominion just seems out of place with where the "endgame" story is. The Breen, not as much - the Breen were supposed to get Romulus. The Romulans have the saying about never turning your back on a Breen, etc, etc, etc. The animosity between the Breen and Romulans is there.

The Dominion? They just want to be left alone - they worked with the Alpha Quadrant to deal with the 2800, etc, etc, etc.

So it's a case of wondering if it's a Dominion lockbox because it can be loaded up with goodies both from the Dominion and Breen. If it were a Breen lockbox, it wouldn't make sense to include Dominion stuff, etc, etc, etc.

Will have to see as more info is given.

I'm not sure that a Heavy Escort or Battle Cruiser would have as much effect on PvP as the Sarr Theln would. Then with the possibility of the cross faction console thing... Feds maybe getting AA or Leech.

Well, I wouldn't be able to make my comment that AA/ASD + toys > ADR + toys. It would just be ADR > er... ADR > er... it would become Carrier/Drainboat Wars.

I'd rather see the Heavy Escort or Battle Cruiser for that reason. At least then, I can still run FvF.
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Maal, Klingon, Mogh - Vegar, Orion, Marauder
Nivuh, Ferasan, B'rel - Venit, Lethaen, M.Qin - Kopor, Nausicaan, Guramba
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# 4
12-15-2012, 10:16 AM
I would guess...

Jem Cruiser in the box....

Jem Heavy escort in the lobi store.
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# 5
12-18-2012, 01:54 PM
First of all, 4 of those ships are just duplicates due to retrofitting or fleet versions. Also, counting the Vesta ship three times is extremely generous considering they're all just tweaked versions of the science ship with a gimped hangar bay that fires so slowly it's painful. Finally, this seems like a lot of carriers until you realize how many new ships came out in the last year, not just carriers.
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# 6
12-18-2012, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by egtownsend View Post
First of all, 4 of those ships are just duplicates due to retrofitting or fleet versions. Also, counting the Vesta ship three times is extremely generous considering they're all just tweaked versions of the science ship with a gimped hangar bay that fires so slowly it's painful. Finally, this seems like a lot of carriers until you realize how many new ships came out in the last year, not just carriers.
Count the non-carrier ships before the start of the year.
Count the carrier ships before the start of the year.

Look at the percentage increase of carrier ships.
Look at the percentage increase of non-carrier ships.

Three times as many carriers now as when the year started.
Are there three times as many non-carriers?

Though in the end, I'm not sure what your post has to do with my suggestion that even though carriers have grown significantly in numbers - it's unlikely that the Dominion box will have one (though I'm still wondering if they might not Lobi the Sarr Theln at some point).

Which goes on to question what effect a Jem Heavy Escort (or even the BC, given the move toward Heavy Destroyers/Warships we've seen of late along with carriers) might have on PvP.

It also leaves room for speculation on the potential problems a Sarr Theln could add - were it ever to be added.

So there's all sorts of room to discuss all sorts of things...
...I'm just not sure where saying that variants, refits, retrofits, etc of a ship shouldn't count as a ship while trying to point out the variants, refits, retrofits, etc of non-carrier ships.

But oh well, I just post here - not like I work here...
Willard the Rat, Reman, F.T'varo - Rave, J.Trill, Kar'Fi - Mysk, Gorn, Varanus
Maal, Klingon, Mogh - Vegar, Orion, Marauder
Nivuh, Ferasan, B'rel - Venit, Lethaen, M.Qin - Kopor, Nausicaan, Guramba
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