Hi all,

Don't know about the rest of you all, but as most players are starting to reach Tier 4 & 5 of the reputation system, I am beginning to worry about the very low hull points on most of the BOP's.

These ships were already a huge problem before Borg Tractor + cutting beam combos, and the Hyper-plasma torpedoes.

The bleed through of this direct dmg to hulls is out of proportion to what the hull can realistically soak-up. It takes a shorter time to obliterate the Hoh'Sus than it has time to cloak.

I don't even fly the Hoh'sus anymore. Even with full MKXII Purple Neu. Armour, or any other for that matter, this ship folds like a paper plane in a hail storm.

Before the reputation system, it stood a small chance of being viable. Not so much anymore.

Just wait till the romulan plasma disruptors and embassy consoles are more widespread. Even more plasma burns. soon shield be useless since everyone will simply ignore them and directly burn your hull.

In before "LOL Thissler you suck!" and "L2P vs GOOD players not NOOOBS!"

I'm okay with the BOP where it is at for hull strength. I'm not okay with consoles or weapons.

Cheers and happy flying.

Perhaps you right Thissy.

But personally, and this is just me, you could have one or the other. Both of them together, that's just bad.

I have to mirror the OP's concerns. As the game progresses and the vessels ingame become more Mary Sue-ish, will the BoP be kept a pace?

The Borg Tractor + Cutting Beam combo is getting a major nerf (more than 50% damage reduction) in tomorrow's patch notes.

As for the special Plasma Torps...well is it the torps themselves or the DoT that's fouling you up? If it's the DoT I wonder if that's just a symptom of disregarding plasma as a viable weapons type in PvP for so long.

No, I think they buffed the DoT at some point, because people have been noticing that the Borg plasma proc has been a lot more effective at removing hullpoints.

That buff, along with the buff to the plasma energy itself, makes plasma a viable weapon at this time. I like that, it makes things a little more interesting. Just wish there were more ways to clear the plasma fire

Agreed on that. At this point, the only real strength the BoP has is the battlecloak. The universal boffslots have been whored out to various Federation/cross-faction ships to where it's not that awesome of an exclusive, and the ship class is deficient in all other respects except turning rate. It doesn't even have speed really working in its favor, because both the KHAS and the Steamrunner physically move faster on average (higher impulse modifier), and it moves the same speed as the escorts can.

Now, if they were to give the BoP 5 tac consoles and make the battlecloak more effective and useful (harder to break through, for example, and a bigger decloak buff), maybe I can agree with keeping the stats the way they are.

I've been noticing that the plasma proc annihilates the hull, unless it's a weak one. I've also been noticing that some players have really stocked up on skills, abilities, and weapons that enable 'em to shoot through the shields. I'm a BoP pilot in PvP, I don't have room for every tanking skill imaginable. Heck, I can't even carry sci team, because I carry two Tactical Teams (can't afford the doffs that would enable me to reduce that to 1 effectively).

Back on topic....

Battlecloak is fine as well. Speed isn't. These ships should be quite a bit more speedy out the gate.

And if you use one of the heavy bop's you can get the hull up over 40k using jevonite. Hey the option is there. 43k hull in a bop. Lulz ensue.

I'm rocking 21.4k hull about now. It discourages you from playing escort. And that is fine. Give it a speed boost. Really giving up all that hull should count for a bit more in the flat out speed category.

Cheers and happy flying.

Yeah, wish they had given the fleet BoPs a .22 impulse mod so we can keep up with the ridiculous JHAS and now the Steamrunner. Turning rate is fine, especially with Pattern Omega to buff it, but that speed is just not enough anymore. I run 78 engine power when on my attack preset, and the JHAS can still outrun me (and in some cases out-turn me), and some Federation escorts can keep up unless I use Impulse Capacitator.