Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 16
# 1 Whats the deal with Bullying
12-30-2012, 05:02 AM
I have a problem.
Got into an argument with some players in Otha (as happens) and for no good reason at all (the way I was playing) they started sending me personal insults(Trolling me). And then things got even worse when I started to send them insults back! It appears they feel they can insult me but not me them! Now they are better PvPers than I (they have been playing the game longer).

But what is making me upset is that even though I know that it's a PvP zone (although now I mostly go there for the mission). Whenever these groups of players are there they will attack me usually as a group, then start to spawn camp me & then keep doing it until I leave! And telling me I have to leave!

Often I'm there before them and they come and start doing this to me. So it's not even like I get the opportunity to develop my PvP as they simply dont want to me to play there! Or I'm set upon by 2 or 3 players!

But whats most dissapointing is that I have reported this behaviour.. And the message I get from this company is that the above is acceptable! Some of them have even made racially charged comments towards my charracter. (This was in front of one of my friends) who is also black.

I read another thread that went into a way of blocking these people out completly. So they wouldnt know I was there or vice versa. But I feel that this is getting beyond a game & is unacceptable!

Last edited by durranosgood; 12-30-2012 at 06:34 AM.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 2
12-30-2012, 05:16 AM
Racism is against the TOS. Report the player in question.


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Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 3
12-30-2012, 05:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by snoge00f View Post
Racism is against the TOS. Report the player in question.
I know I should have at the time. But any minority (even if your white living in Africa) will understand what I mean by the delayed reaction...

I guess you could call it mild shock, I have experienced racism in NWN but it almost slipped past me on this occasion. It was just thinking about when I just realised I have taken A LOT of greif from these people.. far more than I could give them (They outnumber me)

The wider point to be made is, if you have a game where bullying is tolerated. Then you cannot be surprised if other undesirable characteristics of human nature creep into the game.

Such as sexism, homaphobia and all the other nice things!
Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 434
# 4
12-30-2012, 05:44 AM
I'm all for a bit of trash talking. It's just unfortunate when things escalate and degrade into the kind of nonsense. There's just something about the Internet that can turn normal folk into super douches.
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Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 16
# 5
12-30-2012, 05:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevehale View Post
I'm all for a bit of trash talking. It's just unfortunate when things escalate and degrade into the kind of nonsense. There's just something about the Internet that can turn normal folk into super douches.
I know what you mean. But that only works when both parties are taking part in it. When it started I actually stopped playing and asked them "Why are you Trolling me?". They carried on, so I started Trolling them!(much better than they trolled me). Which made them even more angry!

I think it has a lot to do with maturity.
And age has nothing to do with that sadly
Career Officer
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Posts: 1,325
# 6
12-30-2012, 07:53 AM
If its generic trash talk then i'm all for it. This is PVP, sir!

If it really is rather bad, and they're being racist then search their fleet, either find their website and enquire the name of the fleet leader, or just take a wild guess based on the names that appear.

Feel free to link him/her this thread.
Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 461
# 7
12-30-2012, 05:22 AM
If it's an issue, you can set yourself to not show up on searches of online players or players in a zone in the Social menu (default key: O, if I recall correctly). You can also ignore players by typing /ignore @thatplayershandle in your main chat box.

The best way to avoid arguments in Otha (and Kerrat, for that matter) is not to participate in them. The best way to not get trolled is to act like you don't care when you do get trolled.

Cryptic is not going to help you. I have never seen anyone get punished for any kind of behavior towards other players, including things far worse than a little griefing. If you want any kind of meaningful response, I suggest finding out (some other way than by asking the people pushing you around) who the responsible players' fleet leader is, and asking him if he will do anything about it.
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# 8
12-30-2012, 05:24 AM
People have been banned for harassment.

One notable troll was banned recently.


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Ensign
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Posts: 6
# 9
01-05-2013, 02:13 PM
I am aware of a single player who has used racial epithets in zone. While I have no direct knowledge of Cryptic's response, his manifold alternate accounts suggest he has been punished in some way.

Several points need to be made, however, with regard to the events and climate described by the OP. All too often, players arrive on Otha expecting to complete the mission and be on their way with no opposition whatsoever. It's an open PvP zone, and competition -- within each faction as well as red versus blue -- is an integral part of the challenge.

There are many ways of successfully managing this situation. Immediately hurling insults and profanities at players -- demanding your right to complete the mission unmolested -- are not among them. Most players will leave you alone if you ask nicely. A bit of diplomacy accompanied by a a dose of humility goes a long way. Heck, if you're truly hapless or just really polite, many people will help you to complete the mission. I've gone so far as to give people better weapons or armor when it was obvious they really needed them.

As for camping: Yes, some players do it. Personally, I abhor it. If, however, you immediately fire as you are respawning, most players will return fire and not regard it as camping. I happen to agree with them.

Any spawn is neutral territory, and respawning players should have a moment to switch weapons, devise a new tactic, or just catch their breath. Neutrality, though, has its limits. If you're on the spawn and you take hostile action...well, expect to be repaid in kind
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