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# 1 KHG or Adapted (MACO) shield
01-01-2013, 08:49 PM
I'm of the belief that the MACO shield, with its extra damage reduction and power levels proc is far better than the KHG shield, ignoring needing to get set bonuses. Now that both sides have the option of both shields (Admittedly at large expense), I'm tempted to swap to using the MACO shield. Thoughts?
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# 2
01-01-2013, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ruinsfate View Post
I'm of the belief that the MACO shield, with its extra damage reduction and power levels proc is far better than the KHG shield, ignoring needing to get set bonuses. Now that both sides have the option of both shields (Admittedly at large expense), I'm tempted to swap to using the MACO shield. Thoughts?
The KHG three peice power does seem very much useless. And so it makes allot of sense to get the MACO shield, Thats what I've been planning to do.
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# 3
04-02-2013, 06:56 PM
I think we all need to be careful when we say which maco shield we are talking about. Adapted or non
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# 4
04-02-2013, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by purvee1 View Post
The KHG three peice power does seem very much useless. And so it makes allot of sense to get the MACO shield, Thats what I've been planning to do.
I wonder if the cloaking effect of the 3piece power is enhanced by the Rom rep passive?

I prefer the KHG shield over others but the MACO is an excellent piece of equipment.
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# 5
04-02-2013, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
I wonder if the cloaking effect of the 3piece power is enhanced by the Rom rep passive?

I prefer the KHG shield over others but the MACO is an excellent piece of equipment.
Yes, it does stack. On my older account before it got hacked/messed up, I had both systems completed. THe Rom Passive does stack onto the KHG set.
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# 6
04-03-2013, 06:17 AM
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Yes, it does stack. On my older account before it got hacked/messed up, I had both systems completed. THe Rom Passive does stack onto the KHG set.
So does that mean for a few seconds the KHG AoE cloak is also near impossible to see through? If so, alot of fun can be had with that.
Like AoE cloaking every KDF at respawn in Kerrat (not shooting) so all the feds believe we have left, then decloaking and attacking.
Much giggles.
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# 7
04-03-2013, 07:24 AM
MEF (the 3 piece KHG) was buffed a while back and is freaking awesome for PvP. As a panic button it can be cloak lite (you need to stop shooting) and is a sizeable source of def bonus. On a non-cloak ship at the start of an arena pug it can keep you from being the only KDF target when your team is picking targets and kicking their drunk weapons officer awake. Also it's AoE and as far as I know adds the def bonus to targetable projectiles, which is dastardly. IMO if you're a Jem HEC, Scourge, etc, and you plan to pug it's the way to go.

The 3 piece MACO bonus doesn't compete. Now the MACO shield itself (high cap and additional res is awesome, plus the power bonus on top of it) is good enough to compete even with the 3 piece KHG bonus, that's how good the shield is, IMO. As far as I can tell the res on the MACO is damage that just evaporates. Always on, can't be sub-nuc'd off, just keep a sliver of shield up.

I also can't quit the KHG cause I love me some hot restart.

And Roach, every KDF at the spawn would have to stop shooting, and IDK if you'd have to be on a team.

PvE go MACO (Adapted KHG) shield. Standard KHG engines for Tholians to reduce headaches. Neither 3 piece is a game changer for PvE IMO.
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# 8
04-03-2013, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
So does that mean for a few seconds the KHG AoE cloak is also near impossible to see through? If so, alot of fun can be had with that.
Like AoE cloaking every KDF at respawn in Kerrat (not shooting) so all the feds believe we have left, then decloaking and attacking.
Much giggles.
That is correct.
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# 9
04-04-2013, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ruinsfate View Post
I'm of the belief that the MACO shield, with its extra damage reduction and power levels proc is far better than the KHG shield, ignoring needing to get set bonuses. Now that both sides have the option of both shields (Admittedly at large expense), I'm tempted to swap to using the MACO shield. Thoughts?
This choice should probably hinge on what you're flying, and where. The KHG shield has that neat little stealth proc that makes it harder to hit you, while the MACO just makes it harder to do damage when they DO hit you.

Back in the day, when the sets were separated and you could get them from drops in the STF's (this would be pre-season7 patch), I used KHG quite effectively on the humble Bird of Prey. *(at that time, mixed with the Borg deflector, console, and engine at first, then just the complete set later)

It's what you're doing with the gear that should influence whether to get, or keep it. I'd likely claim the (Adapated) aka MACO gear is better suited to use on a Raptor or BCruiser, along with the Omega set, but others will have differing views.
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# 10
04-05-2013, 08:49 PM
You can push your opponent to a 75% miss rate with the KHG. That's pretty clutch. It extends to your team. So that's handy. Then there's the passive placate. That's another damage reduction.

But if you're looking for a full time passive that you don't need to be awake for in PVE, go MACO.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMArobiYv0Y

There you can actually watch the KHG set working in PvP. It's a great ON USE ability. If you don't like or feel the need for that, it's arguable that the passive placate vs the passive resistance roughly equal each others damage reduction over the course of a match leaving you the passive energy bonus to enjoy with the MACO instead of the on use defense/stealth of KHG.

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