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# 1 What about the B?
01-17-2013, 10:58 AM
We all know what happened to the Enterprise C. Went through time portal, Captain died, future Tactical officer hitched a ride, went back through portal, fought four Warbids and boom. Ship destroyed and crew taken back to Romulus. The Enterprise B vanished without a trace. How about a mission that explains what happened to her?
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# 2
01-17-2013, 11:06 AM
B or not a B?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA7lv1SDzno

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# 3
01-17-2013, 11:09 AM
I'm not sure if CBS is saving the 'B' for the books or perhaps a future video trek adventure, but I don't believe that STO can do much with it at this point.
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# 4
01-17-2013, 11:11 AM
Come up with a good story for what happened to the B then make a Foundry mission. I believe the Enterprise-B/Lakota variant of the Excelsior class is available as an NPC skin the Foundry.
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# 5
01-17-2013, 11:15 AM
To B or not to B that is the Question

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# 6
01-17-2013, 11:50 AM
There's more information about the later years of the Enterprise-B on the website Memory Beta (the non-canon wiki), including the first female Enterprise captain Demora Sulu (sorry C's Rachel Garrett).
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# 7
01-17-2013, 04:48 PM
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I'm not sure if CBS is saving the 'B' for the books or perhaps a future video trek adventure, but I don't believe that STO can do much with it at this point.
They will never make another movie or tv show that is like the TNG or TMP.It is strickly JJ show now as Berman and Braga failed at it miserably.You never kill off an icon Generations Kirk ,Nemisis Data.
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# 8
01-18-2013, 03:21 AM
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They will never make another movie or tv show that is like the TNG or TMP.It is strickly JJ show now as Berman and Braga failed at it miserably.You never kill off an icon Generations Kirk ,Nemisis Data.

You kill them off, you just kill them off well.


Spock in Wrath of Khan.


Kirk and Data didn't have good send offs.



The loading screens in STO tell you the Ent-E was the first to encounter an 8472 singularity. The rest of it I got from a thread here on teh forums, asking what happened to the E. Apparantly, it was a story written in a Star Trek magazine, where Shon (Captain of the Ent-F) went to Data, where he is retired and now lecturing at a university, looking for some advice and guidance prior to taking the F on her maiden voyage. Data related the story of the E's final mission in that story. I haven't read it personally, but that's the tale folks were posting on here.





As for Harriman, he struck me as a newly promoted Captain. Someone with no space experience under his belt yet, literally just promoted. After all, every Captain has to have that first command, and a quick run around Pluto is a good way to get your Captain adjusted to his new ship, his new crew. See how everyone works together. I'm sure lots of Captains are like that first time out. But I can see him becoming a great captain as he grew into the position.


I like to think he continued on with the B straight after Generations (no gap of another captain) and had many years in command. I read somewhere he made first contact with 17 new species.
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# 9
01-18-2013, 03:41 AM
Data's "death" was abrupt, but a powerful moment. Kirk's death was just a plain tragedy, where we expected to be grand and he instead went out with whimper.


But when it comes to the B's end, I hope it's creative. So far we got the 1701 self destructing, the A decommissioned, and the D destroyed. Cryptic never fully let on with the E if she was captured, scuttled, or abandoned. The C supposed to been self destructed, but then there was tales of the hull being dragged to Romulus to be displayed.

So the B needs to have a fate that's different, like she was "flown apart" (referencing Sulu's "Fly her apart then") during an emergency and her frame was too damaged to remain in service. (There are military ships and aircraft that actually had that happen). Maybe tie that to the Tomed incident like some stories suggest.
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# 10
01-18-2013, 08:32 AM
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They will never make another movie or tv show that is like the TNG or TMP.It is strickly JJ show now as Berman and Braga failed at it miserably.You never kill off an icon Generations Kirk ,Nemisis Data.
Brent Spiner has said in various interviews that he thought it was time for Data to be killed off as he himself had visibly aged out of the role.

I think TNG was masterfully done, but it did take them almost a full season to find their legs. DS9 took things in a completely different direction, and I enjoyed it immensely. I even came to like Voyager. Enterprise, on the other hand, was a great premise that unfortunately didn't really resonate with the fans (including me). At least it explained why some things in Trek are the way they are.

I really think it's a shame that George Takei is 75 now. I really would have liked to see a few seasons of ST:Excelsior. Apparently that was the other option besides ST:Enterprise. Excelsior could have done an excellent job of in canon bridging the gap between TMP and TNG.
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