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For those who don't know what I'm talking about, I recommend reading this: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/47

At first, I thought the "47" jokes in the vanilla missions were a little amusing. Not laugh-out-loud funny, mind you, but worth a smirk... and maybe a subdued chuckle. At first.

That was before I realized just how often they were used. It's gotten to the point that any time a number is given in a vanilla mission, you can be sure that "47" will appear somewhere in it. I understand that they're being included as a tribute to the Trek writers, but considering how blatant the references are, I think they've lost their charm, and stopped being a fitting tribute.

Think about it: in Trek, the "47" references were very, very subtle. The number was rarely used in actual dialogue (of course there are a few exceptions), but was more frequently seen on bulkhead, doors, storage compartments, etc. Sometimes it was inverted, and "74" was used instead. Furthermore, using "47" was not a hard and fast rule (as it's become in STO). Other numbers were given as well.

Most importantly, by midway through DS9, the writers themselves tired of the joke, and it was used less frequently. I'd like to humbly suggest that the STO writing staff follow their example.

The jokes were a good idea at the game's inception, and I'm glad you included them. But now they've gotten stale; it's time to retire them.
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# 2
01-30-2013, 04:46 PM
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# 3
01-30-2013, 04:48 PM
Can we get rid of 13 as well? It doesn't feel right to me, it's like bad mojo.
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# 4
01-30-2013, 04:52 PM
1 - 7 - 3 - 4 - 6 - 7 - 3 - 2 - 1 - 4 - 7 - 6 - Charlie - 3 - 2 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 7 - 7 - 7 - 6 - 4 - 3 - Tango - 7 - 3 - 2 - Victor - 7 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 7 - 8 - 8 - 8 - 7 - 3 - 2 - 4 - 7 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 7 - 6 - 4 - 3 - 7 - 6 - Lock.


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# 5
01-30-2013, 04:58 PM
I have to agree with the OP. There are way too many 47 references.
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# 6
01-30-2013, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by janusforbeare View Post
For those who don't know what I'm talking about, I recommend reading this: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/47

At first, I thought the "47" jokes in the vanilla missions were a little amusing. Not laugh-out-loud funny, mind you, but worth a smirk... and maybe a subdued chuckle. At first.

That was before I realized just how often they were used. It's gotten to the point that any time a number is given in a vanilla mission, you can be sure that "47" will appear somewhere in it. I understand that they're being included as a tribute to the Trek writers, but considering how blatant the references are, I think they've lost their charm, and stopped being a fitting tribute.

Think about it: in Trek, the "47" references were very, very subtle. The number was rarely used in actual dialogue (of course there are a few exceptions), but was more frequently seen on bulkhead, doors, storage compartments, etc. Sometimes it was inverted, and "74" was used instead. Furthermore, using "47" was not a hard and fast rule (as it's become in STO). Other numbers were given as well.

Most importantly, by midway through DS9, the writers themselves tired of the joke, and it was used less frequently. I'd like to humbly suggest that the STO writing staff follow their example.

The jokes were a good idea at the game's inception, and I'm glad you included them. But now they've gotten stale; it's time to retire them.
devs please don't even waste your time with this LOL you got much more better things to do here move long nothing to see here
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# 7
01-30-2013, 05:25 PM
Honestly.... I never noticed.
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# 8
01-31-2013, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by markhawkman View Post
Honestly.... I never noticed.
Same here, anyone able to show some examples?
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# 9
01-31-2013, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by antovaras View Post
Same here, anyone able to show some examples?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_%28number%29


Quote:
Joe Menosky graduated from Pomona College in 1979 and went on to become one of the story writers of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Menosky "infected" other Star Trek writers with an enthusiasm for the number 47.[6] As a result, 47, its reverse 74, its multiples, or combinations of 47 occur surreptitiously in almost every episode of the program and its spin-offs Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager and Star Trek: Enterprise.[4][7] Forty-seven might be mentioned in dialogue or appear on a computer screen, for example:

* In Star Trek: Generations, Scotty manages to beam up only 47 El-Aurians before their ship is destroyed by the energy ribbon.
* In the TNG episode "Darmok", the computer of the Enterprise reports to have found 47 occurrences of the word "Darmok" in its database.
* In the DS9 episode "Whispers", the planet Parada 4 has seven moons.
* In the Voyager episode "Parallax", we learn that the Emergency Medical Holographic Channel is 47 and that the EMH has the experience of 47 individual medical officers.
* In the Voyager episode "Non Sequitur", Harry Kim lives in apartment 4-G, G being the seventh letter of the alphabet. The intentionality of this reference to 47 was confirmed by Brannon Braga, the writer of that episode.
* In the Voyager episode "Before And After", the phase shift is 1.47
* In the 2009 film Star Trek, the Enterprise was built in Sector 47 of the Riverside Shipyards, and 47 Klingon ships are said to have been destroyed by Nero's ship, the Narada.
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# 10
01-31-2013, 01:45 PM
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Nice examples, none relevant to STO though...
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