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Lt. Commander
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(I'm joshing for fun here, so no one has to go one a long rant about anything said. )

The thread about ideas for a new Star Trek series had of late become more about what is canon or not. But there are some things that are canon that need more explanation. Like:
  1. Romulan ale. Its illegal in the Federation, right? But as we've seen in the shows, Starfleet officers seem to be able to get it anyway. But why is it illegal? Alcohol isn't illegal in the Federation, even though they have synthehol. (synthehol is for lightweights!) Even if its illegal for Romulan brewers to sell it to the Feds, that doesn't make it illegal for the Feds unless its a FEDERATION law that its banned. Besides, couldn't an average fed citizen just go home and have his personal replicator make it anyway? (fighting urge to not go on my rant about replicators...maybe another time) Is there a total ban on trade with the romulans in that time period (Kirk through Picard)? If not wouldn't a savvy shipping business import it? seems silly to turn away a profitable business venture. If it were me, I'd be all like "Come to Star Enterprises Imports! The sole importer of T'Lek's bonafide Romulan Ale! Its great for Oktoberfest parties!" (and we know they have Oktoberfest, since Sisko and Cal Hudson remarked on going to one at "New Berlin" in the early DS9 episodes.
  2. Tribbles hate klingons. But they like Vulcans. But do they like Romulans?
  3. Vulcan is a hot planet, as we've seen in the series. (though, it can't be all desert). I think Spock once said in an old episode how he found the Enterprise to always be a little colder than what he's comfortable in...and he's half human). So wouldn't vulcans serving in Starfleet.,...which we can easily see have more humans than nonhumans on their ships...(maybe humans are the "tribbles" of humanoid species in the Trekverse, breeding prodigously) find starships uncomfortable? They evolved on a planet that is by our terms, pretty hot and arid. By the same token Andorians come from a frozen planet. Wouldn't they find temperatures unbearable at say 80 or more degrees farenheit? Here in Fayetteville, NC it can get downright stupid hot a few weeks of the summer. I'd love to invite an Andorian (if they were real) to one of my BBQs. "Hey Shran, you want another burger...oh, daggone it, he passed out again.".
  4. What exactly is klingon bloodwine made of? Does it have blood in it?
  5. I can honestly say I would shareDoctor McCoy's reservations about the Transporter. Wouldn't you?
Career Officer
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# 2
02-04-2013, 04:15 PM
1. Romulan ale is only illegal because of a trade embargo against the Romulan Empire. During the brief truce during the Dominion War, it was actually legal in the Federation.

2. The relationship between Tribbles and Romulans is complicated.

3. You think Fayetteville is hot? Try Texas! lol. Buddy of mine moved from here in Texas to Charlotte last year and was amazed at how much more bearable the summers were.

4. The first glass of bloodwine was made from slaughtered Hurq. These days they just throw in some tomato juice and call it good.

5. Most definitely. Is that person stepping out on the other end of this thing really me?

Porthos is not amused.

Last edited by collegepark2151; 02-04-2013 at 04:18 PM.
Captain
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# 3
02-05-2013, 12:19 PM
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3. You think Fayetteville is hot? Try Texas! lol. Buddy of mine moved from here in Texas to Charlotte last year and was amazed at how much more bearable the summers were.
I prefer the dry heat, but can't help wondering if T'Pol likes it hot and nasty or prefers it cooler. Vulcan appears to be arid like Vegas.
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Lt. Commander
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# 4
02-05-2013, 01:19 PM
I'm mostly nitpicking at production decisions here, and most of these questions aren't meant to be taken seriously, but:

1) Why is every species except humanity named after their planet (or vice versa)? Romulans come from Romulus. Vulcans come from Vulcan. Andorians come from Andoria (or, occasionally, Andor - w00t inconsistancies!). The Tellarites come from Tellar. Denobulans come from - you guessed it - Denobula! Presumably, the Borg originated on Borgulus Prime or something. As a courtesy to our future alien neighbours, I propose we rename our planet Humania. Or maybe Humania III, for extra clarity.

2) This was sort of mentioned in the doctor McCoy question, but who in their right mind would EVER rely on transporters? I swear, they never work when you need them. How many times did Harry Kim say, "There's some kind of interference, captain! I can't get a lock!"? And always at the most damned inconvenient moment, too. I mean, you have spaceships that can wrap the laws of physics around their little nacelle, and safely fly through rips in the fabric of space-time, but noooo, you'd rather rely on technology less reliable than a 2001 Ford Explorer. Technology that takes you apart piece by piece, no less, and has been responsible for combining different people into one individual, creating evil twins of its users, hurling its victims into alternate dimensions, and inducing psychosis in those already crazy enough to use it.

3) If humans don't use money, how did the crew of DS9 pay for their drinks and holosuite time at Quark's?

4) Considering how many times Starfleet members have gone back in time to our era, why didn't any of them bother to watch Star Trek? They could have avoided a lot of stupid mistakes.
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# 5
02-05-2013, 01:31 PM
All I'm saying is the only blood curdling scream I ever heard from a Vulcan involved a transporter.

Porthos is not amused.
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# 6
02-05-2013, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by janusforbeare View Post
I'm mostly nitpicking at production decisions here, and most of these questions aren't meant to be taken seriously, but:

1) Why is every species except humanity named after their planet (or vice versa)? Romulans come from Romulus. Vulcans come from Vulcan. Andorians come from Andoria (or, occasionally, Andor - w00t inconsistancies!). The Tellarites come from Tellar. Denobulans come from - you guessed it - Denobula! Presumably, the Borg originated on Borgulus Prime or something. As a courtesy to our future alien neighbours, I propose we rename our planet Humania. Or maybe Humania III, for extra clarity.
Long ago the word "human" was almost universally defined as "self-righteous space ape". Though this piece of linguistic knowledge has, potentially, far-reaching consequences and could utterly rewrite our understanding of history, it's been decided that letting the Terrans use it so earnestly was too good a time. It's since been kept hidden from Starfleet for generations.

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2) This was sort of mentioned in the doctor McCoy question, but who in their right mind would EVER rely on transporters? I swear, they never work when you need them. How many times did Harry Kim say, "There's some kind of interference, captain! I can't get a lock!"? And always at the most damned inconvenient moment, too. I mean, you have spaceships that can wrap the laws of physics around their little nacelle, and safely fly through rips in the fabric of space-time, but noooo, you'd rather rely on technology less reliable than a 2001 Ford Explorer. Technology that takes you apart piece by piece, no less, and has been responsible for combining different people into one individual, creating evil twins of its users, hurling its victims into alternate dimensions, and inducing psychosis in those already crazy enough to use it.
You can thank Big Transporter's high-paid lobbyists for that one.

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3) If humans don't use money, how did the crew of DS9 pay for their drinks and holosuite time at Quark's?
They hired an intermediary to use the money for them. It's not that humans don't use money, it's that they literally have no idea how to. Last time O'Brien tried to pay for something himself, he ended up with a scratched cornea and dysentery.

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4) Considering how many times Starfleet members have gone back in time to our era, why didn't any of them bother to watch Star Trek? They could have avoided a lot of stupid mistakes.
Because in their timeline 1993 was the start of, like world war 3. No one ever got around to making it and the temporal police erased all knowledge of the show after the Space Nazi incident.
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# 7
02-05-2013, 01:49 PM
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1) Why is every species except humanity named after their planet (or vice versa)? Romulans come from Romulus. Vulcans come from Vulcan. Andorians come from Andoria (or, occasionally, Andor - w00t inconsistancies!). The Tellarites come from Tellar. Denobulans come from - you guessed it - Denobula! Presumably, the Borg originated on Borgulus Prime or something. As a courtesy to our future alien neighbours, I propose we rename our planet Humania. Or maybe Humania III, for extra clarity.
Actually.... this is a flaw of perception. Those are the names that HUMANS use for those planets. The Romulans call Romulus Rihan.
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# 8
02-05-2013, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by janusforbeare View Post
1) Why is every species except humanity named after their planet (or vice versa)? Romulans come from Romulus. Vulcans come from Vulcan. Andorians come from Andoria (or, occasionally, Andor - w00t inconsistancies!). The Tellarites come from Tellar. Denobulans come from - you guessed it - Denobula! Presumably, the Borg originated on Borgulus Prime or something. As a courtesy to our future alien neighbours, I propose we rename our planet Humania. Or maybe Humania III, for extra clarity.
Well Humans tend to be called Terrians or Earthers by Klingons.
My Romulan Liberated Borg character made it to Level 30 and beat the (old) Defense of New Romulus with the skill point bug.
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# 9
02-05-2013, 06:20 PM
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Well Humans tend to be called Terrians or Earthers by Klingons.
And in the mirror universe as well.
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# 10
02-04-2013, 04:20 PM
1) See collegepark's post.

2) I don't see why tribbles wouldn't like Vulcans and Romulans.

3) Vulcans are pretty resiliant. While they may be slightly uncomfortable in cooler temperatures, they should be able to adapt fine. They seem to be fine with 1G gravity as well.

4) It's probably just your normal alcoholic beverage. They call it bloodwine because it sounds cooler.

5) Absolutely.
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