Captain
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# 1 Single beam arrays, viable?
02-05-2013, 01:13 PM
Just getting back into my fed toon

Beams can't lay down what cannons can I know this

However Every one of my Klingons runs cannons

So for a change of pace I'm going to use beams

One question... Are they viable in pvp if so how

I was think about loading up DEMIII but other than that I don't know

In a tac captain and for now will be running the ambassador

Yes I know a tac should only use a defiant yadayadayada
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Captain
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# 2
02-05-2013, 01:21 PM
Maybe for 1on1.

I think the only thing you'd be good for in a larger match would be for heavy torp, mines, and pet spam maintenance.
Captain
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# 3
02-05-2013, 01:38 PM
You won't be bursting anyone away to death, but 5+ Beams at 125 Weapons Power can wear someone down. It's just a matter of working with your team on someone.
The first we heard of getting new PvP maps "soon" was in August of 2010. We're consistently told something will be coming with the "next" update. Absolutely nothing has come to PvP since launch.

I think it's finally time Cryptic stopped stringing us along, don't you?
Captain
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# 4
02-05-2013, 01:43 PM
Gues the first post was from an escort flyer

Thanks to the second post I was thinking about using tetryon glider see what miles I get out of that
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Captain
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# 5
02-05-2013, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mustafatennick View Post
Gues the fits roost was from an escort flyer

Thanks to the second post I was thinking about using tetryon glider see what miles I get out of that
Yes, I am an escort flyer.

But, I have put all beams on a cruiser and even on my escort before. Just for fun.
Captain
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# 6
02-05-2013, 02:18 PM
Isn't that why we all play I know I do

I'm not one for hitting the exchange paying 10mill for 1.9% extra damage(not saying this so you) just I know some that do

I hit pug ques and pve ques most of the day to have fun regardless of damage dealt just want to make this work that's all
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 7 Beams can work...
02-05-2013, 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mustafatennick View Post
Just getting back into my fed toon

Beams can't lay down what cannons can I know this

However Every one of my Klingons runs cannons

So for a change of pace I'm going to use beams

One question... Are they viable in pvp if so how

I was think about loading up DEMIII but other than that I don't know

In a tac captain and for now will be running the ambassador

Yes I know a tac should only use a defiant yadayadayada

In my opinion what you need to know about beams on an escort is this. Never run more than one dual beam bank up front and one single beam array in back. There is never a need NOT to have cannons on your escort. Or a torpedo in my opinion. However the general consensus is that torpedoes suck and if you share that consensus then I would tell you there is no issue with running all energy.

If you wish to go all energy I recommend 3 cannons up front, one dual beam bank, 2 turrets in back one single beam array. Assuming you are flying a defiant with a torpedo I would go with two beam overloads, two rapid fires, one omega with attack pattern doffs, and one high yield. If not I would suggest a different ship as running an all cannon load out or an all energy loadout is not efficient on a defiant unless you decide to run 2 attack patterns (still with the attack pattern duty officers).

In my opinion beams are highly underrated on an escort. But I can tell you that they are not. Relative to any problems with faw or beam overload currently yes. Beam modifications may not be optimal for that reason. But there is nothing wrong with beams on an escort and you can be extremely effective. Just keep in mind that there is never a reason NOT TO have cannons equipped. period.

-Captain Tripwire-

Let no other player discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Though you may walk alone through looming shadows of doubt cast upon you by your enemies. Forge your heart with iron casting its shape out of only your pure will to push forward. You will not be denied eventually.
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# 8
02-06-2013, 01:33 AM
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I think the only thing you'd be good for in a larger match would be for heavy torp, mines, and pet spam maintenance.
For spam (fighters/drones) only if you are tac captain or are in cruiser/sci with three tac slots to buff them up (assuming you use two TT) or both. If not then single turret is more effective spam manager then two or three beams. Dunno why, most likely due to some ACC differences between beams and cannons and possibly drain mechanics. Pure beams (no buff) simply lack the punch to kill even fighters quickly and often have issues with ACC to get the heavy torps before they get you. Buffed up it is different.

So no - beams are not valid at all.
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