Ensign
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I know they're making an arcadey/shootemup Star Trek game with the new time-line and as much as i love the new trek's i'm thinking more Star Trek Armada/Bridge Commander/Elite Force quality type games within the original era we all know and love.

Is it now just too old/outdated for NEW innovate trek games or do you think we'll see some more in the future?
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# 2
02-08-2013, 09:41 AM
Ensign
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# 3
02-08-2013, 09:46 AM
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You might want to check out this page:

http://stexcalibur.com/
Wow incredible, im sure this is something we've all wanted for years! I hope they pull it off!
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# 4
02-08-2013, 10:07 AM
Holy lawsuit bait batman...

If anyone thinks they can honestly pull off a game based on Startrek, but not bother getting permission from CBS first... Well it's their time and money, which will be gone after CBS's lawyers are done with them.
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# 5
02-08-2013, 10:32 AM
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Holy lawsuit bait batman...

If anyone thinks they can honestly pull off a game based on Startrek, but not bother getting permission from CBS first... Well it's their time and money, which will be gone after CBS's lawyers are done with them.
This is one of many reasons that if I was building a new game I would go for a new story. Of coarse, I'm just a syfi fan, not a trekkie

Anyway, I assume you are talking about a standalone game not an mmo?
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# 6
02-08-2013, 10:45 AM
Enh.. if you aren't making money off the project what can they really sue you for?
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# 7
02-08-2013, 10:53 AM
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Holy lawsuit bait batman...

If anyone thinks they can honestly pull off a game based on Startrek, but not bother getting permission from CBS first... Well it's their time and money, which will be gone after CBS's lawyers are done with them.
If CBS wanted, they could have pulled the plug the day they took over the franchise... Or Paramount could have for that matter...

No winnings, no law suit.
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# 8
02-08-2013, 10:58 AM
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No winnings, no law suit.
Wrong.

CBS can point to that game and claim it would impact the profit of STO, because people might quit playing this to go play that. That was the argument Marvel used when they sued CoH.

Just because you don't charge money doesn't mean you can't get sued for IP violation. A company must actively defend their IP/trademarks/copyright or else they can lose it.
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# 9
02-08-2013, 10:05 AM
There's some serious question if STE will ever actually come out. I think we've had that argument on this forum before, but basically, they've been working for so long with so little except mockups to show for it, and even some of the people who've contributed to it say that there's serious doubt they even have what they say they do (which isn't much to begin with), because only a couple people actually have access to most of it.

Bridge Commander 2, another indie project, started years later and has at least had some test builds and as of last week an alpha that actually has some playable elements to it.

https://www.facebook.com/stbc2


As for commercial licensed games, probably not, because the last two companies that had the license had problems with poor sales, and the industry's currently a hostile place when it comes to putting a real budget behind a niche licensed game - at the very least the franchise needs a solid track record of good sales, and Star Trek doesn't have that because of the sheer volume of poor games that have buried the good ones.

Right now Trek's best chance for a commercial video game release is probably a Lego Star Trek game. TT Games has proven they can crank those out crazy fast on tiny budgets, and they've already worked with major rival franchises in the past so Lego Star Wars is unlikely to stand in the way.

Last edited by hevach; 02-08-2013 at 10:16 AM.
Ensign
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# 10
02-08-2013, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hevach View Post
There's some serious question if STE will ever actually come out. I think we've had that argument on this forum before, but basically, they've been working for so long with so little except mockups to show for it, and even some of the people who've contributed to it say that there's serious doubt they even have what they say they do (which isn't much to begin with), because only a couple people actually have access to most of it.

Bridge Commander 2, another indie project, started years later and has at least had some test builds and as of last week an alpha that actually has some playable elements to it.

https://www.facebook.com/stbc2


As for commercial licensed games, probably not, because the last two companies that had the license had problems with poor sales, and the industry's currently a hostile place when it comes to putting a real budget behind a niche licensed game - at the very least the franchise needs a solid track record of good sales, and Star Trek doesn't have that because of the sheer volume of poor games that have buried the good ones.

Right now Trek's best chance for a commercial video game release is probably a Lego Star Trek game. TT Games has proven they can crank those out crazy fast on tiny budgets, and they've already worked with major rival franchises in the past so Lego Star Wars is unlikely to stand in the way.
Hmmmmm i see, thanks Hevach. It's a real shame, i can honestly say Elite Force and Armada 2 are up there in my top 10 favorite games of all time. Elite Force was so immersive and i used to love simply sitting around the locker-room with my away team pretending to be one of them haha.

You are right, so many BAD games have drowned out the classics, that seems to be all we're capable of these days. Hollywood trashes IP's and so does the gaming industry. I guess modders and independent devs are our only hope (as they are for most games). That Bridge Commander 2 also looks promising, shame about Excalibur i guess but ill keep an eye out.
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