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Lt. Commander
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Hello fellow Captains!!!

I'm curious how everyone thinks Gene Roddenberry would feel about everyone capitalizing on the success of Star Trek for monetary gain.

I remember quite a few references in his shows where the desire for monetary game had been "forgotten" or otherwise "surpassed".

Yet everything about STO is created for the sole purpose of putting wealth in the pockets of the makers.

Comments? Thank you.

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# 2
02-18-2013, 01:52 AM
Considering Gene profited from the mountain of Trek merchandising, conventions, personal appearances, movies, posters, lunchboxes, and everything else with Trek on the front of it.... I doubt he'd care and would want his cut.
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Lt. Commander
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# 3
02-18-2013, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by startrekron View Post
Considering Gene profited from the mountain of Trek merchandising, conventions, personal appearances, movies, posters, lunchboxes, and everything else with Trek on the front of it.... I doubt he'd care and would want his cut.
No that can't be right I remember reading somewhere he was a "Humanist".
Rihannsu
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# 4
02-18-2013, 01:59 AM
Believe it. Gene was a shill, selling overpriced trek merch through Lincoln enterprises as far back as the original run of TOS.

He'd LOVE how STO's money grabbing, provided, of course, he was getting a cut of it. If he was still alive, he would've talked CBS into letting us have the ships/things we want (T5 Connie, Android as a playable "race") for a jacked up price so he could get a piece of the action.

Having an idyllic vision of the future and wanting to profit from it greatly are not mutually exclusive. The reason Gene hated the fact that he sold the IP to Paramount wasn't their misuse of it... it's the fact that he didn't make any money off it later on. He never thought the franchise would have a revival in the late 70's.
Career Officer
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# 5
02-18-2013, 02:10 AM
While the above portrayals of Mr. Roddenberry may seem harsh to some, the fact is it's true. You familiar with the IDIC symbol, along with the whole "infinite diversity in infinite combinations" mantra, first introduced in TOS? It was introduced purely for the merchandising and woven into the scripts.

Quite brilliant, really, since this was long before the "product placement" we have nowadays.
Lt. Commander
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# 6
02-18-2013, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by skonn View Post
He'd LOVE how STO's money grabbing, provided, of course, he was getting a cut of it.


Funniest thing I've ready in quite a while! LOL!
Commander
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# 7
02-18-2013, 02:21 AM
He would feel ****ing RICH!!!
Captain
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# 8
02-18-2013, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by skonn View Post
Believe it. Gene was a shill, selling overpriced trek merch through Lincoln enterprises as far back as the original run of TOS.

He'd LOVE how STO's money grabbing, provided, of course, he was getting a cut of it. If he was still alive, he would've talked CBS into letting us have the ships/things we want (T5 Connie, Android as a playable "race") for a jacked up price so he could get a piece of the action.

Having an idyllic vision of the future and wanting to profit from it greatly are not mutually exclusive. The reason Gene hated the fact that he sold the IP to Paramount wasn't their misuse of it... it's the fact that he didn't make any money off it later on. He never thought the franchise would have a revival in the late 70's.
+1

He wouldn't care at all about the commercialization as long as he was getting his cut... Heck, the IDIC pendant was created solely as a marketing ploy...
Captain
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# 9
02-18-2013, 02:06 AM
He started selling merchandise for Star Trek as a sideline even before the merch rights had been settled with the studio.

And Majel, wonderful moneygrubber that she was, continued to profit from his really really terrible ideas after his death (remember Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda and Earth: Final Conflict?).

Roddenberry had a great vision and concept with Star Trek. But he was not a saint, personally or professionally. He was a Hollywood TV guy, with all the emotional and financial mores that are now cliche for Hollywood TV guys.

His contribution to culture and to SciFi in general cannot be overlooked, but then again neither can L. Ron Hubbard's....
Career Officer
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# 10
02-18-2013, 02:42 AM
Gene would feel great! He oversaw and was happy with a lot of it over the course of his life.

...what would make him sad is the loss of the integrity. The loss of the message. It's ok if the message of Star Trek is on the side of a cup you paid an outrageous amount for... but if the message was ever lost, that would be damning to the human race as a whole.

Even if Gene needs to convince you to pay for it, or if you can get it for free without merchandise attached, that message of peace, hope, love, and seeking to be a better person at all times in all things, is what is important.
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