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Ensign
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 29
When I started playing this game, I was overjoyed to see that the original series Constitution Class was available for $5, and that my character could use it right off the bat. I held off buying it for a bit because I didn't want to spend money on this game until I knew I liked it (love it), and I'm glad I didn't because I leveled up so fast and just picked up the movie era connie.

But I keep thinking about the TOS ship. It's a beaut. Is there any talk about getting a fleet version?

Failing that, how tenable is it at higher tier play? I've read that some bring them to fleet events, but that's frowned upon; one person said the leveling phasers get obsolete by level 45. Is there any way to make use it in the end game?

I'm level 38 right now and have pretty well mapped out my end game ships, so I don't know if I'd bother...but part of me really wants to make it work.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 948
# 2
02-28-2013, 03:34 PM
I want the Tier2 one for Endgame. Blame This Guy.
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 968
# 3
03-01-2013, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by captainbmoney View Post
I want the Tier2 one for Endgame. Blame This Guy.
Thanks for posting this. I have begun my series of messages.

Oh, and my messages to CBS went completely ignored. So saying it's the only place worth petitioning is not true. We need to put pressure on both companies. Cryptic and PWE's words cannot be ignored as easily as ours can.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The rule needs to change.
Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,465
# 4
03-01-2013, 05:59 AM
The Constitution is pushing two hundred years old. Expecting it to perform as well, or better, than modern designs is completely ridiculous
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 968
# 5
03-01-2013, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by stirling191 View Post
The Constitution is pushing two hundred years old. Expecting it to perform as well, or better, than modern designs is completely ridiculous
Not with STO technology, or did you miss the older vulcan and klingon ships at tier 5?
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The rule needs to change.
Republic Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,886
# 6
03-01-2013, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cidstorm View Post
Not with STO technology, or did you miss the older vulcan and klingon ships at tier 5?
Yes but they chose to use them and upgrade them because they WORKED, obviously the Constitution class and the refit weren't as efficient as as ships like the Excelsior.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 227
# 7
03-01-2013, 06:39 AM
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The Constitution is pushing two hundred years old. Expecting it to perform as well, or better, than modern designs is completely ridiculous
Yes...because you can't build/use the same design with up to date hull materials, power systems, and weapons that would be in line with the current ships of the line...

/sarcasm
Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,465
# 8
03-01-2013, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dashuk2381 View Post
Yes...because you can't build/use the same design with up to date hull materials, power systems, and weapons that would be in line with the current ships of the line...

/sarcasm
Go ahead and build an 18th century first rate using 21st century materials, weapons and propulsion. See what happens.

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Not with STO technology, or did you miss the older vulcan and klingon ships at tier 5?
Try and quote me saying that older ships should outperform newer ships. You can't, because I never have. A T5/Fleet Connie makes as much (IE: zero) logical sense as a T5/Fleet D7/K'Tinga, a T5/Fleet Excelsior, Ambassador or any other ship that has, in reality, long since been obsoleted by newer design concepts and technology.

What you're arguing for is effectively the same thing as asking for a WWI era Biplane with a jet engine, built from modern composites and carrying state of the art weapons to function as a stand in for say a Super-Hornet, Raptor or Lightning. It's a completely and utterly ridiculous notion.
Republic Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,886
# 9
02-28-2013, 05:54 PM
People are asking for them every week, and the answer is no and hopefully always will be no.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,573
# 10
02-28-2013, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tobiasosir View Post
But I keep thinking about the TOS ship. It's a beaut. Is there any talk about getting a fleet version?
Cryptic has said that CBS isn't allowing it. As far as I know, asking Cryptic for it is going to continue to be futile. Asking CBS, though...?
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Originally Posted by tobiasosir View Post
Failing that, how tenable is it at higher tier play? I've read that some bring them to fleet events, but that's frowned upon; one person said the leveling phasers get obsolete by level 45. Is there any way to make use it in the end game?
With half the weapons of a Science vessel, less than half of the base hull, three consoles, and three Ensign officer slots, it's not only not tenable, it's tantamount to suicide in Admiral level engagements.
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