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namely the escorts. the feds have great escorts with all sorts of station setups, the 2 big ones the feds have and the kdf don't are the MVAM setup and the armatige setup. the kdf also dont have any escorts with 5 tac consoles, wile the feds have 2.

well, its a good thing the tier 3 and tier 4 rapter models remain unused for anything at end game, might as well make fleet ships out of them to fill in the escort gaps

fleet Qorgh retrofit

ship yard tier 4

34,650 hull
.92 shield mod
16 turn rate
4/3 weapons
consoles:
2 eng
3 sci
5 tac
stations:
COM tac
LTC sci
LT tac
LT eng
ENS tac

fed counterpart= fleet MVAM. no mvam, but it would cloak

fleet Pach retrofit

ship yard tier 5

36,300 hull
.92 shield mod
15 turn rate
4/3 weapons
consoles:
3 eng
2 sci
5 tac
stations:
COM tac
LTC eng
LT tac
LT sci
ENS tac

fed counterpart= armatige, no hanger but again, it can cloak

thers some very nice c store costume for each these ships too, make a fleet version and people would actually have a reason to buy it. for both these ships, and the low tier versions, i think a 1 turn rate buff, like the advanced and patrol got, and later the saber got as well, all the way to 17, would be appropriate. with the somraw and Qorgh having 17 turn, and the Pach having 16.


theres also that andorian ship with its 5 forward weapons, something i somehow doubt the kdf will ever see a big c store 3 pack escort release featuring such a ship armed like that. BUT, there is the VERY underwhelming fleet qin that could be modified into something useful. i can guaranty not a single owner of the current fleet qin would object to this, make that ship's weapon loadout 5/2, with no other changes. all the kdf escorts would be great then


theres also the tier 4 bird of prey, and the tier 5 bird of prey that they could make a fleet ship out of.

Fleet Ki'tang Bird-of-Prey Retrofit

ship yard tier 3

26,450 hull
.92 shield mod
21 turn rate
4/2 weapon
consoles:
3 eng
4 sci
3 tac
stations:
COM uni
LTC uni
LT uni
LT uni


a fleet bop with a 4th sci console is a niche not filled yet, the Hoh'SuS has the 4th tac console and the brel has a 4th eng console already. just a sci console might not be much of a draw, so it has a higher shield mod, like that of a kdf escort. theres also a costume for this ship that people would be inclined to get if they could use it at end game.


Fleet Hegh'ta Heavy Bird-of-Prey

ship yard tier 4

26,400 hull
.88 shield mod
21 turn rate
4/3 weapons
consoles:
3 eng
3 sci
3 tac
stations:
COM uni
LTC uni
LT uni
LT uni
ENS uni


the fleet version of the tier 5 bop's special feature is that it has that missing ens station all other ships have, universal of course.thats hardly better then 2 LTC stations, so this also has the missing 3rd aft weapon an escort would have.


it sounds like there is a c store negvar on the horizon, with the regent's station setup. excited to hear about that! how about a little speculation

chancellor gowron's negvar

42,900 hull
1.1 shield mod
9 turn rate
5/3 weapons
consoles:
4 eng
2 sci
4 tac
stations:
COM eng
LTC tac
LT eng
LT uni
ENS tac

special: a disruptor clone of the andorian wing guns. these would fire from the under slung guns the negvar had in DS9. the negvar we have in game now is basicly the one we say in AGT, not DS9. the wing guns are the perfect tech to apply to a ship like the DS9 neg, and ther perfect ship to give a 5th forward weapon too. it might not be an escort, but its a big powerful cruiser, it will be awesome

1 more kdf cruiser to go, the originally tier 2 K'Tanco. 1 cruiser setup the kdf does not have yet is a clone of the excelsior station setup. that would be awesome on a awesome turning, DHC using KDF cruiser

Fleet K'Tanco Retrofit

ship yard tier 4

34,450 hull
1.1 shield mod
13 turn rate
4/4 weapons
consoles:
4 eng
2 sci
4 tac
stations:
COM eng
LTC tac
LT eng
LT sci
ENS eng

fed counterpart= excelsior

this one, maybe they should nerf its turn down to 12, lest it be too good. or not, ether way, would be an awesome ship

oh and last but not least, the fleet Guramba

fleet Guramba

ship yard tier 5

34,650 hull
.99 shield mod
15 turn
4/3 weapons
3 eng
3 sci
4 tac
stations:
COM tac
LTC tac
LT sci
LT eng
ENS tac
Abilities:
Siege Mode
Javelin

Last edited by dontdrunkimshoot; 03-23-2013 at 01:32 PM.
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# 2
03-14-2013, 07:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
the kdf also dont have any escorts with 5 tac consoles, wile the feds have 2.
Actually it's 3. Fleet Defiant, Fleet MVAE, and now the Tactical Kumari.

Captain
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Posts: 585
# 3
03-15-2013, 08:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mimey2 View Post
Actually it's 3. Fleet Defiant, Fleet MVAE, and now the Tactical Kumari.
This presupposes that the 5-tac console Kumari is a ship and not a coffin that's cosplaying a ship.

Drunk, what do you think of giving the Tactical Negh'var an LT Sci BOff and making the LT Eng BOff uni?
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Lieutenant
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Posts: 60
# 4
03-14-2013, 08:22 PM
These are some good ideas. There are indeed a lot of KDF ships that could be made into more fleet versions, let alone a better selection of ships in general. It would be nice to see them implemented, but I doubt we'll get more than carbon copies in the future.
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# 5
03-14-2013, 10:02 PM
They should add the K'vort, it would be easy to make, it's basically a B'rel scaled up to twice its size. Give it the stats of a battlecruiser with the seating of a BoP with a Qin's turn rate and you'll have players with be emptying their wallets for one. Or a 3 pack with consoles.
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,810
# 6
03-15-2013, 04:17 AM
I endorse this. I love these ideas & suggestions you posted here.

Actually, about the Gowron's Negh'var you suggested, lately I was more considering that kind of setup for a more nimble K'vort battlecruiser with 5/3 weapons and the alternative to wing cannons. Given how Starfleet has the edge on escorts and science ships, and the KDF generally more usable cruisers, I could see a sharper edge that the KDF could have in the crusier department, since Starfleet is killing us in the escort & science department.

So, this is just an idea and a rough outline that I've come up, for a more powerfull and nimble K'vort battlecruiser. Here it goes:

Hull: 37.000
Shield Mod.: 1.0
Turn rate: 12
Weapons layout: 5/3
Consoles: 5 Tac 2 Eng 3 Sci
Stations:
Comm. Tac.
Lt. Tac.
Lt. Eng
Ens. Sci
Lt.Comm. Uni

+10 Weapons Power
+5 Shield Power

She would use the wing cannons as you suggested for the Gowron Negh'var, given how disruptor wing cannons would look very appropriate on the wingy B'rel design of the K'vort.

And then maybe Gowron's Negh'var could get another special ability/weapon or possibly a hangar. I always tended to see that Negh'var as a very powerfull and sturdy alternative for the Bortasqu', which can move better and would fullfil the demands of the KDF players that hate the Bortasqu' for it's turn rate. And save the (possible?) 5/3 layout for something that can fly a bit better. Just a thought.
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# 7
03-15-2013, 08:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
namely the escorts. the feds have great escorts with all sorts of station setups, the 2 big ones the feds have and the kdf don't are the MVAM setup and the armatige setup. the kdf also dont have any escorts with 5 tac consoles, wile the feds have 2.

well, its a good thing the tier 3 and tier 4 rapter models remain unused for anything at end game, might as well make fleet ships out of them to fill in the escort gaps

<snip>
fleet Pach retrofit

ship yard tier 5

36,300 hull
.92 shield mod
15 turn rate
4/3 weapons
consoles:
3 eng
2 sci
5 tac
stations:
COM tac
LTC eng
LT tac
LT sci
ENS tac

fed counterpart= armatige, no hanger but again, it can cloak

thers some very nice c store costume for each these ships too, make a fleet version and people would actually have a reason to buy it. for both these ships, and the low tier versions, i think a 1 turn rate buff, like the advanced and patrol got, and later the saber got as well, all the way to 17, would be appropriate. with the somraw and Qorgh having 17 turn, and the Pach having 16.


<snip>
I can't hardly wait for ANY fleet Pach ship, but I'd ask for LtC Univ spot since this ship has that aweful Tac ensign. I want some sci action without flying an unarmed ship PLZ, maybe a recon version where the LtC is a SCI slot ?
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# 8
03-15-2013, 10:35 AM
i think the 3 year aniversery kdf ship not being the kvort proves they are never going to make that ship. it would basicly be a brel thats the size of a hegh, so actually it is sorta pointless.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thegrimcorsair View Post
This presupposes that the 5-tac console Kumari is a ship and not a coffin that's cosplaying a ship.

Drunk, what do you think of giving the Tactical Negh'var an LT Sci BOff and making the LT Eng BOff uni?
oh ya the tac andorian ship. honestly, i don't really consider it real lol, if i were going off on all the things fed have that kdf don't, i wouldn't mention that thing

the neg's station setup is exactly what the fleet assault's station setup is. bit of a faulse choice, you have enough eng and tac already. would you want 2 LT sci? might have a hard time making it a healer though with so much built in tactical already. its just a big escort basicly

Quote:
Originally Posted by lordmalak1 View Post
I can't hardly wait for ANY fleet Pach ship, but I'd ask for LtC Univ spot since this ship has that aweful Tac ensign. I want some sci action without flying an unarmed ship PLZ, maybe a recon version where the LtC is a SCI slot ?
3 tac ENS isn't nearly as bad as 3 eng ENS. you just have to include a torp or beam on the ship.

the c store costume for the tier 4 raptor is the best looking raptor by far, i'd like to use it too
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# 9
03-18-2013, 03:23 PM
Quote:
... it would basicly be a brel thats the size of a hegh, so actually it is sorta pointless.
I don't think so. They turned the B'rel into a cowards torp bomber. I want a canon BoP I can fly as gunslinger. Not some fugly cryptic design.
And what would be better suited as a counter to the Kumari ? I mean super heavy wing cannons... ask a random Trekkie which star trek ship is defined by massive wing cannons I bet at least 9 out of 10 would say bird of prey.
So it makes quite a lot of sense to me to have that ship in my hangar.

And that Negh'var, I would buy it just to have it's skin (with them weapon pods) for the fleet Negh'var of my engi.
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# 10
03-18-2013, 04:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
namely the escorts. the feds have great escorts with all sorts of station setups, the 2 big ones the feds have and the kdf don't are the MVAM setup and the armatige setup. the kdf also dont have any escorts with 5 tac consoles, wile the feds have 2.

well, its a good thing the tier 3 and tier 4 rapter models remain unused for anything at end game, might as well make fleet ships out of them to fill in the escort gaps

fleet Qorgh retrofit

ship yard tier 4

34,650 hull
.92 shield mod
16 turn rate
4/3 weapons
consoles:
2 eng
3 sci
5 tac
stations:
COM tac
LTC sci
LT tac
LT eng
ENS tac

fed counterpart= fleet MVAM. no mvam, but it would cloak

fleet Pach retrofit

ship yard tier 5

36,300 hull
.92 shield mod
15 turn rate
4/3 weapons
consoles:
3 eng
2 sci
5 tac
stations:
COM tac
LTC eng
LT tac
LT sci
ENS tac

fed counterpart= armatige, no hanger but again, it can cloak

thers some very nice c store costume for each these ships too, make a fleet version and people would actually have a reason to buy it. for both these ships, and the low tier versions, i think a 1 turn rate buff, like the advanced and patrol got, and later the saber got as well, all the way to 17, would be appropriate. with the somraw and Qorgh having 17 turn, and the Pach having 16.


theres also that andorian ship with its 5 forward weapons, something i somehow doubt the kdf will ever see a big c store 3 pack escort release featuring such a ship armed like that. BUT, there is the VERY underwhelming fleet qin that could be modified into something useful. i can guaranty not a single owner of the current fleet qin would abject to this, make that ship's weapon loadout 5/2, with no other changes. all the kdf escorts would be great then


theres also the tier 4 bird of prey, and the tier 5 bird of prey that they could make a fleet ship out of.

Fleet Ki'tang Bird-of-Prey Retrofit

ship yard tier 3

26,450 hull
.88 shield mod
21 turn rate
4/3 weapon
consoles:
3 eng
4 sci
3 tac
stations:
COM uni
LTC uni
LT uni
LT uni


a fleet bop with a 4th sci console is a niche not filled yet, the Hoh'SuS has the 5th tac console and the brel has a 4th eng console already. just a sci console might not be much of a draw, so it has a bit more hull then the other 2 current fleet bops, and a 3rd rear weapon. theres also a costume for this ship that people would be inclined to get if they could use it at end game.


Fleet Hegh'ta Heavy Bird-of-Prey

ship yard tier 4

26,400 hull
.88 shield mod
21 turn rate
4/2 weapons
consoles:
3 eng
3 sci
3 tac
stations:
COM uni
LTC uni
LT uni
LT uni
ENS uni


the fleet version of the tier 5 bop's special feature is that it has that missing ens station all other ships have, universal of course.


it sounds like there is a c store negvar on the horizon, with the regent's station setup. excited to hear about that! how about a little speculation

chancellor gowron's negvar

42,900 hull
1.1 shield mod
9 turn rate
5/3 weapons
consoles:
4 eng
2 sci
4 tac
stations:
COM eng
LTC tac
LT eng
LT uni
ENS tac

special: a disruptor clone of the andorian wing guns. these would fire from the under slung guns the negvar had in DS9. the negvar we have in game now is basicly the one we say in AGT, not DS9. the wing guns are the perfect tech to apply to a ship like the DS9 neg, and ther perfect ship to give a 5th forward weapon too. it might not be an escort, but its a big powerful cruiser, it will be awesome

1 more kdf cruiser to go, the originally tier 2 K'Tanco. 1 cruiser setup the kdf does not have yet is a clone of the excelsior station setup. that would be awesome on a awesome turning, DHC using KDF cruiser

Fleet K'Tanco Retrofit

ship yard tier 4

34,450 hull
1.1 shield mod
13 turn rate
4/4 weapons
consoles:
4 eng
2 sci
4 tac
stations:
COM eng
LTC tac
LT eng
LT sci
ENS eng

fed counterpart= excelsior

this one, maybe they should nerf its turn down to 12, lest it be too good. or not, ether way, would be an awesome ship

oh and last but not least, the fleet Guramba

fleet Guramba

ship yard tier 5

34,650 hull
.99 shield mod
15 turn
4/3 weapons
3 eng
3 sci
4 tac
stations:
COM tac
LTC tac
LT sci
LT eng
ENS tac
Abilities:
Siege Mode
Javelin
OH PLEASE! Dont think we get consoles for fleet ships.... and don't bring this up please! I want NEW ones....
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