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# 1 Caspian Division REBORN!
04-04-2013, 07:08 PM
First off I want to thank the player community for the support they've show during this time.

Around 4 AM on April 4th a leader of Caspian had their account used against their knowledge to demote all the leaders and remove all members from our Fed and KDF fleets. This person then proceeded to promote his own character to leader and then finally demote and remove the last member of Caspian. The person responsible has stepped forward and claims the Fleet is in his possession and will return it once his demands are met.

We aren't sure how this person got access to one of our leader's account or email. We submitted a ticket to cryptic and their GM department has informed us they don't currently offer fleet support.

As a response, Caspian has decided to reform under the banner of "Caspian Rising" and as hard and painful as it will be start from scratch.
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# 2
04-04-2013, 07:37 PM
We also want to reiterate just how much we appreciate the amazing support and assistance we've received from SO MANY other fleets!

You have RISEN above and have proved why STO's community is THE BEST!!

Love you, thank you.

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# 3
04-04-2013, 07:53 PM
Again i would like to say: that I'm sorry to hear this and it's very upsetting to see/hear that hard work and dedication has been taken by someone who is below that of scum.

At the same time Everything happens for a reason and even though this situation is very unfortunate it is/has brought the STO community together to help a brother/sister in STO that is in need. As a member of SSOG (Starfleet Special Operations Group) and KSOG (Klingon Special Operations Group) I offer our assistance in ANY way that is needed to help with the Rebuilding of Caspians Star Base and Embassy.

Keep your Chin UP Caspian you WILL Rise to be better than ever...and remember the Good of the Many will out Weigh the Evil of the Few.. Best Wishes


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# 4
04-04-2013, 08:11 PM
The Ferasan Shadow Force would also like to extend our support during this trying time. Please do not hesitate to ask for help in rebuilding your fleet. We would love to provide whatever we can to make this transistion easier.

We will also recommend your fleet whenever anyone asks about a good Federation fleet. I know a lot of homeless cats are looking for a good Fed fleet.

We stand with you.

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# 5
04-04-2013, 08:28 PM
Thank you Commadore! Our KDF faction was hijacked as well - The House of Caspian is no more. However we have moved to the fledgling Gates of Sto'Vo'Kor fleet created and held by our member Soriedem and will begin again. Please extend our gratitude to the members of the Ferasan Shadow Force for your honorable hospitality and don't be surprised if a few of our members reach out to you!

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# 6
04-04-2013, 07:38 PM
Our Starbase was Rank 4.5 and our Embassy 2.5. On both we were seeing the finish line to teir 5 and 3 respectively.
A little more information. The fleet leader who was hacked had not been in game for quite some time. When Cryptic was hacked and they sent out the mass message for all its player base to change their passwords, the fleet leader who was hacked hadn't been playing. The individual who identifies himself as Kyle apparently hacked the account and then created the Mayhem. If you see anyone in game with the fleet name: Caspian Division, that is him.

To date, he has not stated his demands. At this time, we have defiantly started a new fleet "Caspian Rising" and start from ground zero with a Starbase and Embassy at Tier 0.

All that was built are lost due to someone's sense of self entitlement and not caring the impact on a group of people who spent their time, (Real) money and happiness in developing something in game with their friends.

I still do not see how it is a "Fleet issue" as Cryptic is saying because the account was hacked. I guess short term memory is present because Cryptic itself was hacked. Maybe it is my anger and sense of being violated by the hacker here that is getting me upset that the powers that be cannot help out a little.
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# 7
04-04-2013, 11:00 PM
Originally Posted by magnumoftheblack View Post
The fleet leader who was hacked had not been in game for quite some time. When Cryptic was hacked and they sent out the mass message for all its player base to change their passwords, the fleet leader who was hacked hadn't been playing.
Ah. There's you're problem right there.

Rule number one in security: keep clearances current. Well, rule number sev...elev...? I forget, but it's up there.

A painful lesson, but one that the whole community can learn from. Demote or dismiss non-active members.

That said, this is a horrible act of *theft* that needs to be punished to the full extent of the law. Sure, this is theft of "virtual goods" but let's be clear: stealing and using usernames and passwords that do not belong to you is against the law (18 U.S.C. 1030 to be exact... which subsection to charge him/her with depends on some facts I don't have).

Real people spent real money on materials to build that base. Cryptic gets real money from the purchase of fleet modules which can ONLY be redeemed at Fleet Shipyards. Make no mistake, if the average player has ANY reason to mistrust the fleet system, it is a threat to Cryptic's bottom line.

Put yourself in the shoes of a Fleet Admiral. If you get an email that says "send X bitcoins to account Y within 24 hours or I delete your base," what are you going to do? GM ticket? Complain on the forums? Pretend you never got the message? Plead for mercy? Talk the guy down to X-5 bitcoins?

Two things need to happen:

1) Cryptic needs to lock out ALL accounts that did not change their passwords after the breach. Yes, that will make it slightly more difficult for players returning to the game to login. Yes, a certain number of those players who are confronted with a "change your password" screen will just give up. Tough. It was a corporate error when the passwords were stolen. This is a knock-on cost of that failure. Eat it and move on.

2) Cryptic needs to hire an Ombudsman. There are more shenanigans going on now in several facets of the game. As it gets more complex, this is inevitable. There will be gray areas. There needs to be human review of these issues. But more importantly, there needs to be *assurances* given to the playerbase that their work will not be in vain in this type of situation. Yes this is an MMO. Yes this is teh interwebz where mean nasty trollz get their jollies. Yes it's caveat emptor and everyone man for himself... herself... whatever!

But this is Star Trek.

We're better than this.

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# 8
04-04-2013, 11:06 PM
I have spread the word for my fleet's non-Ferasan alts to consider your replacement fleets.

That said, Brandon has pointed this thread to the devs: Leave your fleet protections suggestions there and it will be seen by Cryptic.
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# 9
04-04-2013, 11:16 PM
It must really suck to have this happen to one's fleet (weeks perhaps months of hard work), and now it's the second time it has happened in a larger scale that got attention here on the forum..

As an old EVE Online player I must say this: EVE use to take pride in being the only game that has a "no rules" kind of gameplay. But now, seeing how these fleets are getting no assistance at all from GM's, I nolonger think EVE has the right to call themselves the only outlaw, pirate, shenanigans game. STO could too?

Just my thought on the matter. Sorry to hear about your fleet.
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# 10
04-04-2013, 11:17 PM

I don't post here....ever, but want to say a most heartfelt and sincere Thank You to the members of the STO community who rallied to Caspian's aid during this time.

When I was told what happened this morning I felt like someone told me my house had been destroyed in a fire. Caspian is not just a fleet in a game (to me), but many of the members are like family, and indeed have assisted not only me but others in real life, outside the game, during times of crisis. We are a huge extended family where fun, laughs and sharing conversation far more than counting kills.

The joke is on this despicable individual as he rallied Caspian to an even tighter bond. We are Caspian, we will not only continue our missions of exploration and enforcement, but we will dance and continue on as the best looking fleet in STO.

May the Elements watch over you, and thank you for your support during this time.

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