Lieutenant
Join Date: Mar 2013
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# 1 Which faction for PVP?
04-05-2013, 01:41 PM
Which faction is currently doing the best at PVP, in general? I've got a KDF up to 50, but in the limited time I've played him, KDF seems to dominate the queues. Was my experience typical?

Also, are queue times any quicker for Fed?
Ensign
Join Date: Nov 2012
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# 2
04-05-2013, 01:57 PM
Doesnt matter...everyone can fly a Bug.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 3
04-05-2013, 01:58 PM
let me summarize all future responses....

-Klinks are OP
-Fed players are worse
-Feds have better ships
-Klinks have op consoles
-Feds are noobs
-Klinks are jerks
-Klinks spam
-Feds spam




and btw Klinks queues talk longer but you can always go hunting in kerrat
Nerf Klinks, Buff Rommies
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 4
04-05-2013, 04:38 PM
Playing KDF is more fun, imo. Anways, all good pvpers eventualy end up as KDF.
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Ensign
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 22
# 5
04-06-2013, 01:43 AM
I actually find pvp more fun using my fed character. Why? Simply because in an Arena or a Capture and Hold the Klingon group tends to completely wipe out the other side without any effort (most of the time at least) while FvF and FvK on the fed side can really be a lot more challenging.
Its not just a matter of ships and of one side having better versions: the Klingons have generally more offensive oriented ships such as BoPs, battlecruisers and carriers that don't have a real fed counterpart, but lack in science ships and escorts. On average though it is more likely to find a better team while playing with the kdf (in PUGs) than with the federation and this also means you will win a lot more as a Klingon.
If you just want to win play Klingon, if you want challenge play fed. My advice is to try and pvp a little both your fed and klink toon and figure out what you prefer: if you love BoPs then you HAVE to play klingon...

And yes, FvF queues are a little faster than FvK because there are a lot more players there.
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# 6
04-06-2013, 03:52 AM
Real tough guys play Fed because it's more challenging and so more satisfying!
Real tough guys don't drain the energy of others and don't need battle cloaks!
K D F - Killing Disadvantaged Feds
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Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 7
04-06-2013, 04:03 AM
Both sides have their advantages and disadvantages, as it should be. Federation has strong escorts, a science ship line to pick from, cruisers that are more oriented towards healing/tanking, and even have 1-2 carriers to pick from.

KDF has somewhat more attack-oriented ship models. BoPs are great harassers and sci-spammers, raptors are okay offensive ships though they're not quite as good as Federation escorts, and battlecruisers can both tank and DPS quite well in the right hands. KDF also has the edge in carriers, which can do a reasonably good job in the support-team role if needed (especially the Vo'quv). What KDF doesn't have is a good selection of science ships, and the disadvantage in escort-level ships.

On the face of it, one could say the KDF has a slight advantage in PvP. It depends on how you look at it, and player skill can change many things. A good Fed team comprised of a sci ship, 1-2 cruisers or carriers, and 2-3 escorts can do a pretty good job at fighting. . .it's a well-balanced team, something the KDF has trouble accomplishing sometimes.

I prefer KDF, but I'm probably biased by my KDF fanboyism
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jan 2013
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# 8
04-06-2013, 08:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fearlessteapot View Post
Which faction is currently doing the best at PVP, in general? I've got a KDF up to 50, but in the limited time I've played him, KDF seems to dominate the queues. Was my experience typical?

Also, are queue times any quicker for Fed?
The best PVP players are Klingons, by far. They coordinate better, they know how to fit their ships, and on the few times I've been moved to the Klink team in Ker'rat, and allowed to open fire on my fellow Feddies... I feel like I'm Jet Li fighting a guy in a wheelchair.

This is why I play Fed. Skilled competition
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 9
04-06-2013, 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fearlessteapot View Post
Which faction is currently doing the best at PVP, in general? I've got a KDF up to 50, but in the limited time I've played him, KDF seems to dominate the queues. Was my experience typical?
As someone who mains both sides this is pretty much typical, due to a combination of factors.

1 - Good fed players got sick of KDF cheese (like power siphons) and generally stick to FvF.

2 - Combined with point 1, FvK tends to have a LOT of new Fed players doing it. It seems to attract them, like moths to a flame. More than half of those on the fed team won't even be using tactical team. Heck I fought one cruiser whose only tanking skill was reverse shield polarity. Escorts equipped with beams, Galaxy cruisers trying to do DPS, sci-ships using jam sensors as a crutch, cats and dogs living together.

3 - Due to the amount of players and dedication required to keep playing KDF, average KDF players tend to be much better then the average Fed player. And trust me, some KDF PvPers aren't that good.

4 - Dilithium grinders see FvK as a quick way to farm it, either going AFK or making a half hearted attempt to play that makes you wonder if they're suiciding. As such, matches go by even faster.

5 - KDF ships are very pro DPS and alpha strike.

This is partly due to the cloaking device which almost causes accidental teamwork. Yeah "accidental teamwork". What looks like focusing fire is just everyone picking the same target by instinct and blowing it out of the sky.

Mostly though it's just because their ships are designed for DPS.


I found FvK matches as KDF rather boring, with huge supposedly tanky cruisers going pop when my cruiser pointed it's weapons at it. The feds seem to pop if you simply look at them. No challenge whatsoever.

Hopefully with Romulans going to make cloaking more available for the feds, along with battlecruisers, the matches may even out... I doubt it though. Still, does make me want to run a Romulan only premade in the FvK queues.
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Last edited by orondis; 04-06-2013 at 03:00 PM.
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# 10
04-06-2013, 03:28 PM
Let's raise a hellstorm if the ships turn out to be loltastic Fed-lite jokes!

Don't let them get away with releasing a joke faction!


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