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# 1 For B rel pilots :(
04-09-2013, 12:28 PM
Just want to get your impressions on post breen "fix"

My experience has been pretty disappointing. prior to patch i felt the breen was the only thing keeping torp boats relevent in pvp. lets face it, even mkxii transphasics with hy3 do basicly nothing to players at the rate you can fire them. now that we lost the large spike from the cluster and the rediculous autotarget/fomm everyone spams as soon as you are exposed, the bang you used to get from the breen hitting (when it does, again, autotarget as soon as its deployed less than 1km away) is just terribly neutered.

i dunno, i feel the brel will be funneled into being your basic alpha bo crf shockwave build.

again we are being railroaded into one setup. just my opinion on the state of the torp boat atm.
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# 2
04-09-2013, 12:32 PM
As a B'rel pilot myself, I use a tachyon deflector with KHG shields and engines for the 2 piece bonus to torps. Still very effective with Harg'peng torpedos and quantums.
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# 3
04-09-2013, 12:34 PM
and how are you defacing sheilds with torps?
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# 4
04-09-2013, 03:59 PM
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and how are you defacing sheilds with torps?
Usually we breakke them open to get to the core and use it to write something crude of funny while M'tuk keeps an eye out for the feds......
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# 5
04-09-2013, 12:35 PM
Never really used the breen all that much on my brels.... switch to quantums and profit.

Phasics don't have the killing power no matter the shield pen. The cluster eh... my torp boat worked fine before it got good. There was a time it miss fired 8 times out of 10. At least now if you really must run it it fires.
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# 6
04-09-2013, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
Never really used the breen all that much on my brels.... switch to quantums and profit.

Phasics don't have the killing power no matter the shield pen. The cluster eh... my torp boat worked fine before it got good. There was a time it miss fired 8 times out of 10. At least now if you really must run it it fires.
again, how are you stripping sheilds with quantums....are you using all quantums? etc

do tell, as im finding trans pretty lacking at this point. if ound the breen worked wonders and caused extreme rage because of people huge investment in sheild stacking. by bypassing that, it gave many hours of rage joyfullness.
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# 7
04-09-2013, 01:44 PM
I'm only using the Cluster torpedo, and have only played with the the Rapid reload a few times.

Current fore weapons:
Quantum - Bio-neural - Breen Cluster - Hargh'Peng

Aft:
Omega - Chroniton

HY3 only affects Quantum on my fore. On my own, it can strip shields on unsuspecting targets and I have one-volleyed people before. When I'm supporting someone else, the quantums can punch through a weakened shield face and do significant hull damage.

Oddly enough, my kills shots are usually from the Hargh'Peng's secondary explosion. Everything else just assists with hammering shields and hull low enough for the Hargh'Peng to finish them off.
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# 8
04-09-2013, 01:51 PM
i find for any torpedeo boats i like to have a least on harg'pang on the front and plasma torpedeos but not withi hi yead boff power and turrets on the aft distrupor, aniproton, distruptor-polorons or mk 12 tretyons
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# 9
04-09-2013, 01:53 PM
also the cutting is very useful with something to weaked shield and is very good once the shield are dropped
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# 10
04-09-2013, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by beefsupreme79 View Post
again, how are you stripping sheilds with quantums....are you using all quantums? etc

do tell, as im finding trans pretty lacking at this point. if ound the breen worked wonders and caused extreme rage because of people huge investment in sheild stacking. by bypassing that, it gave many hours of rage joyfullness.
Phasics don't do enough punch to kill anyone that is planning to tank you anyway... really how often have you solo killed anyone with phasics.... not often I would bet unless you catch them with bugged cluster mega crits.
With the torps alone ? not often I am betting

Run something like this

TSS 1 - Pol 2 - Tac 3 - CPB 3
Tac Team 1 - HY 2 - HY 3
Jam 1 - hazards 2
EPTS 1 - Aux to Damp 1

3 Quants + Peng / Time Torp / Tric (don't use that often anymore whats the point)
1 Mine + Peng / Cluster / Time Torp

Will the strip work against everyone... no... will it work against most yes.

Do you attack every engi cruiser you see at 100%.... no.

Do you wait for them to engage someone else and be at 25% shielding... yes.

Do you wait till someone else pops a facing for them and spit 7 quantums into that facing... yes.

Honestly you will be shocked how often a strong strip build still works. Many people are not 9 in insulators... and frankly even if they are they still only get a 50% reduction, that means you are still stripping 4-5k in shielding.

Be a proper bop pilot don't engage till its in your favor.

The advantage of quantums is when you attack someone that is ripe... they will DIE. There is no limping away from a HY quantum from a rigged up brel... on my fully Oped B'rel my quantum dmg is over 8k unbuffed. Even with a facing up I think I'm doing 90% of the dmg to hull your getting out of phasics anyway.
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