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right now I have 134 skills is flow capacitor and 124 power in Aux on my B'rel sci build torp boat.

I was thinking of replacing photonic officer 2 with Tach beam or energy siphon?

worth it or not?

Thanks.
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# 2
04-10-2013, 07:47 PM
as a guy who has a specialized shield draining vesta i can tell you this.


NO.


it is not worth it.

enjoy your science
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# 3
04-10-2013, 08:26 PM
Don't listen to Mai... yes its worth it.

A few Things.

1) combo it with CPB.
2) some people will be more resistant then others... but this is true of every skill. Honestly you will be suprized how often people DONT have 9 points in insulators. Even if they do you still do good dmg with it... despite what some claim. Your not going to drop some sci ship wth 15k per facing down to zero... but don't expect to. Choose your targets wisely... only pick on those guys when your strips will relieve them of the last 10-20% they have.
3) If you have doff room.... look at the Tachyon doff. Its not popular. however it is effective it does kill turn... as a test I ran 3 one night and the effect was pretty funny.

Bottom line test it out for yourself.... it costs you nothing to test it out for awhile and make your own mind up.
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# 4
04-10-2013, 09:21 PM
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Don't listen to Mai... yes its worth it.
lol, what does mai know about shield stripper builds right
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# 5
04-10-2013, 10:12 PM
It's also very useful if you combo it with the doffs that reduce turn rate. While an escort can just race out of range, it's a very unpleasant surprise when they're trying to maneuver, or that Bortas is trying to line up a shot.
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# 6
04-10-2013, 10:16 PM
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lol, what does mai know about shield stripper builds right
Not much I guess.

What does he know about the B'rel ? 100% completely nothing... ask him what his klink toons name is.

Seriously he was going on about how shocked he was about how many people didn't have heavy insulator spend around 2 months ago....

I guess something changed since then ?
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# 7
04-10-2013, 11:23 PM
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I guess something changed since then ?
People stopped running shield stripper builds so people put less points into power insulators. If heavy shield stripper builds became popular again then you'd see more points being put into insulators until shield stripping became irrelevant.
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# 8
04-11-2013, 01:49 AM
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Not much I guess.

What does he know about the B'rel ? 100% completely nothing... ask him what his klink toons name is.

Seriously he was going on about how shocked he was about how many people didn't have heavy insulator spend around 2 months ago....

I guess something changed since then ?
I actually have 2 kinks.

I don't play them as much but I have a nice lvl 50 sci toon in trying to figure what to do with for the past 2 years and a tac guy I sorta have up on when the grinding became real bad.



Seriously.

My answer still stands, tachyon beam is not worth the slot. Any other power would be better if he takes only one shield stripping power in his build. Cpb has more value.

Now if he's going pure science shield stripping he's in the wrong ship.

And yes, shield stripping can be deadly but you have to remember my shield stripping was with 5 consoles at +30 each and the skill tree filled and the maco deflector (I think it adds a tiny bit too) that's over 200 in flow caps using 3 powers and pets to get a mildly effective shield stripper.


So like I said, tachyon beam by itself is not worth it. If its tachyon beam 3 a better shield drain combo is tractor beam 3 and a very rare shield drain doff. It will drain about the same and hold the target still
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Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
Do you even Science Bro?

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# 9
04-11-2013, 08:42 AM
Tachyon Beam usefull in PvP?

no. Not worth it.

Sure, combo'ing it with other skills to make the total effect of everything combined, i suppose it could be a 'nice' addition, oh well.
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