Lt. Commander
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 183
Ok.. I could tollerate the fugly new UI.. but what on earth were you smoking that you got rid of the ability to toggle first person camera mode for both ships and ground? ARE YOU INSANE?? Seriously wtf is wrong with your team that you would actually get rid of an option? I know it didn't save the stupid setting I reported the bug but I wanted you to FIX IT!! NOT GET RID OF IT! Seriously pissed off.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 183
# 2
05-23-2013, 06:19 PM
PS. I hate 3rd person camera games.. you just broke this game for me.
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2
# 3
05-31-2013, 01:40 PM
I could not agree more!! I love the option to go First person! makes me feel more like a part of the game! I wish they would change that! and you are right, they broke it!!
Career Officer
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 72
# 4 I don't understand
05-24-2013, 08:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pwebranflakes
The deprecated option to Enable Shoulder Camera has been removed.
This quote is from the release note for LoR recently published.
Reading this it looks like the design decision was to put Shoulder Camera in default and not changeble, meaning that players supposedly hated changing to first-person (...?).

Personally, I loved having the option to choose whenever I needed one or the other, and I too would have liked to see a line stating "fixed a bug where the option to enable or disable shoulder camera wouldn't save, reverting to default"

Thank you.
Ensign
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 7
# 5
05-24-2013, 04:30 PM
Somebody worked really hard on modeling Romulan butts and they're really intent on you seeing them.

But yeah, FPS mode was really helpful considering I cut my teeth on the original Doom and Quake. Now it just feels like I'm watching somebody else play KOTOR or something, an effect enhanced by the frequent lag spikes that make my character rubber-band around the level.
Commander
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 287
# 6
05-26-2013, 01:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ehlim View Post
This quote is from the release note for LoR recently published.
Reading this it looks like the design decision was to put Shoulder Camera in default and not changeble, meaning that players supposedly hated changing to first-person (...?).

Personally, I loved having the option to choose whenever I needed one or the other, and I too would have liked to see a line stating "fixed a bug where the option to enable or disable shoulder camera wouldn't save, reverting to default"

Thank you.
Ya know, the way they worded that in the changelog, makes it sound like it was the shoulder-cam view that was depreciated and removed. Not the behind-the-head/first-person view that was depreciated and removed.

When you remove an option to enable a feature, that means you no longer have that feature. In this case, the shoulder-cam feature.

When I first read it in the changelog, my first thought was "Yay! No more shoulder-cam!"... then I got into game and beamed down to the academy, to my horror at finding out the reality.

-- Smoov
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 183
# 7
05-26-2013, 02:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoovious View Post
Ya know, the way they worded that in the changelog, makes it sound like it was the shoulder-cam view that was depreciated and removed. Not the behind-the-head/first-person view that was depreciated and removed.

When you remove an option to enable a feature, that means you no longer have that feature. In this case, the shoulder-cam feature.

When I first read it in the changelog, my first thought was "Yay! No more shoulder-cam!"... then I got into game and beamed down to the academy, to my horror at finding out the reality.

-- Smoov
Exactly my reaction. Flying a ship from behind it is like wtf.. where's my cockpit view? I want to FLY the ship not be some weird thing behind it. If I wanted 3rd person flying mode I'd play EVE-O instead.
Commander
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 287
# 8
05-27-2013, 01:32 PM
Well, flying a ship from behind, is infinitely better than flying (or fighting hand-to-hand) from the side.

-- Smoov
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 183
# 9
05-28-2013, 02:42 PM
Huh? FPS view was infinitely better than chase cam. You shot where your camera pointed. You could rotate the camera from the inside to look in any direction like a POV hat in flight sims. Flying from behind is terribad. The camera is always lagging behind where your nose is and your ship is always in the way of your camera if you use DHCs you'll understand why that's important.

Edit: Oh you mean the over the shoulder vs directly behind.. gotcha..

Last edited by alaerick; 05-28-2013 at 03:04 PM.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 157
# 10
06-18-2013, 03:42 AM
[quote=alaerick;10358421]Exactly my reaction. Flying a ship from behind it is like wtf.. where's my cockpit view? I want to FLY the ship not be some weird thing behind it. If I wanted 3rd person flying mode I'd play EVE-O instead.[/QUOTE
the game engine itself cant support a cockpit view and it wouldnt work because things would happen in a ship would take a long time to program and dan stahl said that remodelling ships is hard will not likely do it again.
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