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I did a search and didn't find anything.. so was wondering are joined Trill ever going to be allowed to join the Romulans as a starting race? Aren't trill supposed to be a neutral race?
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# 2
07-05-2013, 02:03 AM
Since Romulans are not Romulan and in fact end up either FED or KDF and joined trill are available to both, I see no reason why they shouldn't be available as a Romulan starting race.

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# 3
07-05-2013, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kelshando View Post
I did a search and didn't find anything.. so was wondering are joined Trill ever going to be allowed to join the Romulans as a starting race? Aren't trill supposed to be a neutral race?
Not really, the reason Joined Trill had to be made avialable (non-Joined Trill are not avialable to the KDF) was due to the conditions drawn up for the pre-order and Digital Download users...which stipulated Joined Trill for them.
Cryptic appearently forgot there were two factions in the game at the time and forgot to make that part of the conditions faction-specific. So as a result they HAD to make Joined Trill available to the KDF as well. Personally I'd have preferred a KDF-specific solution like Augmented Klingons with the same stats...but that's another story. So this has nothing to do with Trill being neutral, otherwise both Trill and Joined Trill would be avialable to both factions. Instead it has everything to do with legal voodoo.
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# 4
07-05-2013, 12:06 PM
Well I still think they should be made for the Romulan faction.. Cause I wont make one till they do.. all my toons are trill and want to continue that :-(
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# 5
07-05-2013, 12:13 PM
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Well I still think they should be made for the Romulan faction.. Cause I wont make one till they do.. all my toons are trill and want to continue that :-(
Trill have no place in a Romulan faction. They're explicitly a Federation species from a Federation world, who only got added to the KDF because the best known Trill was shacking up with Worf.

If you're that desperate for a Rommie Trill, use the Alien generator and build yourself one.
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# 6
07-05-2013, 02:34 PM
you cant make a alien joined trill.. and Jaz was dead before all this took place.

Also I have not read anything that Trill is a member of the Federation just a affiliate.. maybe there is another source of this information that I have not seen.
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# 7
07-05-2013, 02:51 PM
You can't be a Caitian or Klingon either as a Romulan, and those are other purchased species, so no suprise here. KDF Trill was just added because of that offer and they didn't stipulate that it was Fed only, and it was somewhat canon because Curzon and Jadzia were accepted by Klingons. There are no Joined Trills that command that kind of respect from Romulans, in fact they may despise them because of Ezri Dax in the Vesta novels.

Its bad enough Romulan faction gets stuck with all the stupid aliengen characters, Trill would make even less sense then those. Picking something other then Romulan or Reman gimps yourself and the groups you are in anyway, aliens or Trill can't get the traits that Romulan or Remans get, I don't want to see these added to Romulan faction.
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# 8
07-06-2013, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kelshando View Post
you cant make a alien joined trill.. and Jaz was dead before all this took place.

Also I have not read anything that Trill is a member of the Federation just a affiliate.. maybe there is another source of this information that I have not seen.

Trill patterns are available in the alien generator. If you can't make believe in a fictional game, that's your own problem.

See below for Trill's Federation membership.

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Wrong, it is unclear whether Trill are part of the Federation.
Check your facts. Trill (or more accurately, Trillius Prime) was admitted to the Federation in 2285 and had multiple members of their species as high ranking diplomats for the Federation (Kurzon, multiple Odans, etc). You don't officially speak for a multiplanetary government if you're not a part of it.

Not to mention the explicit description of the Trill Science Ministry as being one of the greatest centers for scientific learning in the Federation. Routinely beating out the Vulcans in terms of conjuring up all manner of techno-goodies.


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Like I already said, they were an ADVERTISED BONUS.
I stand by what I said. Trot out all the old posts by Stormy you like, doesn't change the fact there's zero justification for KDF trill, and even less for Romulan ones.

Last edited by stirling191; 07-06-2013 at 06:33 PM.
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# 9
07-06-2013, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by stirling191 View Post
Trill have no place in a Romulan faction. They're explicitly a Federation species from a Federation world,
Wrong, it is unclear whether Trill are part of the Federation.

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Originally Posted by stirling191 View Post
who only got added to the KDF because the best known Trill was shacking up with Worf.
Wrong:

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Originally Posted by Stormshade
The real reason?

The Joined Trill are a retail bonus item. We felt that punishing Klingon players for buying a box at a certain retailer and then suddenly discovering they couldn't use the advertised bonus was unfair.[...]
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...8&postcount=10

Like I already said, they were an ADVERTISED BONUS.
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# 10
07-29-2013, 12:56 PM
This is like saying Romulans should get humans clones because Shinzon was a human on the Romulan side so it's cannon...actually that makes more sense than Trill. There's little reason that Romulans would be associating with Trill and any reason given would be little more than a mechanical contrivance to allow players to get spots on their avatar. In short we don't need it and it doesn't fit but that's just my opinion.
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