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# 1 New LCARS Looks bad here:
11-09-2013, 12:02 PM
You may have noticed our new LCARS textures are in. Thomas the Cat made a new texture sheet for the LCARS, and we save over the old, blue texture.

As such, this texture will now auto-propagate to anywhere that was using the old blue textures. (That's Good!)

However, people over the years have been sloppy, and unwrapped consoles in hideous ways. (That's Bad.)

The old, blue, blurry texture hid the bad unwrap jobs people had done. (That's Good!)

But the new texture, which is clearer, and higher res, will now make those terrible unwraps very apparent. (That's Bad.)

Unfortunately, there is no magic fix. We have to go through object by object and correct the UVs. I can't guarantee when that will happen. It will take a while.

But you can help! Post here with a screenshot of a cruddy Unwrap, and tell us where you found this piece. This means anything that looks stretchy, wonky, flipped, upside down, backwards, whatever. I'm going to correct the most commonly used assets shortly after this goes to Holodeck, but there are likely many small, one off pieces that are going to be ugly.

Again, there is no promised timeline here, it will happen when I have a chance to touch them up.

Here are some examples of bad UVs:
(I'll take some shots and put them here on Monday)


Thanks
-The Artist formerly known as Tumerboy



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# 2
11-09-2013, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tacofangs View Post
As such, this texture will now auto-propagate to anywhere that was using the old blue textures. (That's Good!)

However, people over the years have been sloppy, and unwrapped consoles in hideous ways. (That's Bad.)

The old, blue, blurry texture hid the bad unwrap jobs people had done. (That's Good!)

But the new texture, which is clearer, and higher res, will now make those terrible unwraps very apparent. (That's Bad.)
Is anyone else getting a Simpson's vibe from this post besides me?
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# 3
11-09-2013, 06:09 PM
I'm already in a state of P A N I C !!

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# 4
11-09-2013, 06:15 PM
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Is anyone else getting a Simpson's vibe from this post besides me?
I don't even know what he's talking about, but it sounds like something else got "fixed", and is, in all likelihood, going to stay that way.
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# 5
11-09-2013, 09:40 PM
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I don't even know what he's talking about, but it sounds like something else got "fixed", and is, in all likelihood, going to stay that way.
Basically, the updated LCARS graphics in Season 8 will cause graphical problems that used the old blue LCARS and Tacofangs needs help to locate every instance of it since it is slow and painful work for just him to do.

The Simpsons vibe is from the That's Good and That's Bad comments.
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# 6
11-10-2013, 01:06 AM
I'll update with some examples on Monday when I get back in. It's not on Holodeck until Tuesday, and at that point, all I'm asking is for people to post images/locations for places where the new LCARS looks weird, or if the old Blue LCARS is still being used.
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Tacofangs, what is your beef with where's Sulu?
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# 7
11-10-2013, 01:46 AM
OMG... i have been so waiting for this to happen!

...so if we see things like this

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...2-12-41-29.jpg

you want us to say something?
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# 8
11-10-2013, 08:03 AM
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I'll update with some examples on Monday when I get back in. It's not on Holodeck until Tuesday, and at that point, all I'm asking is for people to post images/locations for places where the new LCARS looks weird, or if the old Blue LCARS is still being used.
Found a few places that were either using only partial new LCARS, or none at all. Here's a quick list:

PARTIAL - BRIDGES:

Shuttle
Standard
Sleek
Utility
Future
Diplomat
Star Explorer
Alliance
Ceremonial
Unity
Temple
Nomad
Virtue
Alpha
Beta
Gamma
Fellowship
Peace
Brotherhood
Compassion
Assistance
Chirurgeon
Healer
San Francisco
Zimmerman
Eaves

PARTIAL - STARBASES:

Earth Spacedock (main level: shipyard area, middle section & exchange)
Starbase 39-Sierra (exchange area)
Deep Space K-7 (shipyard area)



FULL - BRIDGES:

(These bridges don't use the new LCARS at all)

Classic
Triumph (1st Galaxy-style bridge with this name)
Battle
Prototype
Warship
Utopia
Key
Order
Justice

Triumph (2nd Galaxy-style bridge with this name)
Blaze
Atlas
Pandora
Caucasus



MISC:

All MSD Displays & captain's chair controls are all still one colour.
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U.S.S. Endeavour NCC-91771 - Nebula-class
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# 9
11-10-2013, 03:38 PM
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I'll update with some examples on Monday when I get back in. It's not on Holodeck until Tuesday, and at that point, all I'm asking is for people to post images/locations for places where the new LCARS looks weird, or if the old Blue LCARS is still being used.
In order to more efficiently index all the locations with screenshots and additional information, I setup a small Google Site to post everything that has been found.

https://sites.google.com/a/subnova.com/lcars-upgrades/

I will keep updating this page as new locations/objects are found.
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# 10
11-10-2013, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by starkaos View Post
Basically, the updated LCARS graphics in Season 8 will cause graphical problems that used the old blue LCARS and Tacofangs needs help to locate every instance of it since it is slow and painful work for just him to do.

The Simpsons vibe is from the That's Good and That's Bad comments.
So there shouldn't be any more blue LCARS? They're all over the place! Every computer panel in the game has them. This is a priority?
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