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# 1 Escorts / Cruiser - loot drops
02-01-2010, 02:52 AM
Ok so i play a Eng Cruiser pilot. I keep getting escorts following me, they wait for me to attack something and take agro and start tanking then they attack what ever im attacking and kill it b4 i can, since they do more dps they get all the loot and i get shafted.

Could we please work out a system where the loot from a ship goes to the first person to fire on it, set a range mod on it so if u fire on it once and run out of range u don't get all the loot with no work.

It just really bugs me that im using my skills to tank the dps output of a mob and the escort uses there skills to destroy the mob, and since *it seems to me* that the loot drop system is based on DPS done to target i.e person who did the most dps gets the loot. And since escorts are pure dps boats this seems rather unfair.

Not even sure if a dev will read this. Kinda expect to get flamed for voicing me irritation but meh.

- I realize that grouping and setting loot mode to need greed can sort this but i keep getting escort pilots that understand how things work and understandably don't bother to group cos they can just kill steal everything out from under you.
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# 2
02-01-2010, 02:54 AM
loot drops are actually a round robin system
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# 3
02-01-2010, 02:55 AM
ok so how dose the round robin system work *would help to understand it*
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# 4
02-01-2010, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianDavion View Post
loot drops are actually a round robin system
not all the time. Especially in fleet actions and deepspace encounters (where most loot is found) it is based on DPS.

I agree with the OP. I do a damn good job of tanking an entire fleet so that the escorts can kill them unmolested yet our of about 20 loot drops I may get 1 or 2 if i'm lucky.

Those escorts wouldn't be getting those kills if it wasn't for me. I've watched them go charging in thinking they are the **** only to get blasted over and over without a cruisers help. Then i step in and draw aggro turning the fight around completely, i save their bacon and give them the room to do their thing yet i get no rewards for it.

I have tanked incredible odds through skill. This is BS.


EDIT: and whoever said the escorts purposefully don't group is right. They just follow you around and steal your hard earned loot. What reason is there for them to group if it means they have to share the loot instead of getting it all. This has really made me hate everyone who flys an escort because they all seem to just be munchkin power-leveling a-holes.
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# 5
02-01-2010, 09:53 AM
lol nice to see some1 in the same boat as me. Im starting to hate escort pilots tho i know i shouldent some are real nice ppl that group with you and work together to make this a great game.. but some just seem to love to follow you about and kill steal.
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# 6
02-01-2010, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TheXtreme View Post
lol nice to see some1 in the same boat as me. Im starting to hate escort pilots tho i know i shouldent some are real nice ppl that group with you and work together to make this a great game.. but some just seem to love to follow you about and kill steal.
so true. I've honestly grouped with some really good escort pilots too. They worked as a team and didn't just sit back and wait to fire until the last second to get all the loot.

But in general I have this image of the escort pilot as a stuck up, selfish jerk who thinks they are the only important ship because they do the DPS and don't ever look to see what the rest of the team is doing unless it's to steal loot. I doubt this stereotype is going to go away either because currently it seems the power levelers and immature kids are all flying escorts and giving the others a bad image.

I also feel for the science ships because I can't count the number of times a science ship has come screaming into combat to save my bacon at the last second while I'm getting hammered by 4 +2 klingon battlecruisers. those guys are life savers and they get no loot for their work either.
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# 7
02-02-2010, 01:32 AM
this really needs to be sorted.. unfortunetly it seems to be getting totally ignored. And the common answer is if u want loot roll an escort since the system is designed to reward escorts.
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# 8
02-02-2010, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TheXtreme View Post
lol nice to see some1 in the same boat as me. Im starting to hate escort pilots tho i know i shouldent some are real nice ppl that group with you and work together to make this a great game.. but some just seem to love to follow you about and kill steal.
They are most likely waiting for you to initiate combat so they don't get blown to crap, I follow cruisers and do this but I don't do it to get the loot, it is just more effecient if we can keep our weapons forward facing than having to spin around using all our shields.
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# 9
02-02-2010, 03:33 AM
Personally as an escort pilot i never followed anyone around... I just charge at the first red dot on the map.

Although i now realise that where someone was attacking a target in a 'secure system x' mission they might have been trying to get loot. However i thought "Maybe he needs help" and "Itll be quicker if we all hit the same squadrons".
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# 10
02-01-2010, 02:56 AM
If u group up with some escorts the loot could be shared. I get loot even without shooting some ships when i'm in a team. Just try to play the game like its meant to be.. with buddies and not solo.
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