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# 71
05-20-2013, 03:50 PM
I'm not bothered by KDF losing it, hell I played for months without it.

I am bothered by the idea of Fed Science captains having it. Sci is one of their strong points and this is going to be a bit unbalancing.

Other point worth mentioning, they are going to be rare and expensive on the Fed side, cheap and readily available for us still.
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# 72
05-20-2013, 04:00 PM
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Cryptic really knows how to piss off it's players. No wonder all the real pvp'ers went to games like mwo and planetside 2.
Real PvPers play games like EvE, where wins and losses actually cause permanent damage, and have an effect on the universe.
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# 73
05-20-2013, 04:12 PM
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I'm not bothered by KDF losing it, hell I played for months without it.

I am bothered by the idea of Fed Science captains having it. Sci is one of their strong points and this is going to be a bit unbalancing.

Other point worth mentioning, they are going to be rare and expensive on the Fed side, cheap and readily available for us still.
Except for those dedicated people with tons of EC's because they've been selling ship, master keys and everything else everyone buys

But I agree, kinda makes it quite unbalanced now :/
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# 74
05-20-2013, 04:14 PM
KDF cruisers are still lightyears beyond Starfleet cruisers so there is balance between them and Starfleet escorts. Now the final disparity has been removed and KDF players might actually encounter a challenge in PvP.

It's really satisfying to see how many KDF players are crying about this. The one with the advantage always claims he has none for fear of it being taken from him and cries the hardest when he inevitably loses it.
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# 75
05-20-2013, 04:33 PM
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Feds get Leech console (we knew it was coming some day), but KDF gets some fart console that noone could care less about? At least give KDF torpedo point defense or wide angle torpedo, you know something useful.
With Romeration Officers coming we might just find a use for a Tailpipe sniffing Torpedo
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# 76
05-20-2013, 04:45 PM
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KDF cruisers are still lightyears beyond Starfleet cruisers so there is balance between them and Starfleet escorts. Now the final disparity has been removed and KDF players might actually encounter a challenge in PvP.

It's really satisfying to see how many KDF players are crying about this. The one with the advantage always claims he has none for fear of it being taken from him and cries the hardest when he inevitably loses it.
Lightyears??!! lol hardly, though they are designed for combat more so than the feds cruisers.
The PL is not needed to beat the average feed one meets in Kerrat or a CnH, even the arena's. It is a small advantage og good power production with hardly any effect to a defended target but I havent used on in months becuase its not needed to beat the average fed.
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# 77
05-20-2013, 05:03 PM
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Lightyears??!! lol hardly, though they are designed for combat more so than the feds cruisers.
The PL is not needed to beat the average feed one meets in Kerrat or a CnH, even the arena's. It is a small advantage og good power production with hardly any effect to a defended target but I havent used on in months becuase its not needed to beat the average fed.

Battlecruisers are so OP that more people fly BOPs , Raptors or carriers generally . Seriously idk where people come up with this stuff.

Also totally called it.
Cryptic are not going to break 3 years of screwing the targ so to speak. I just can't wait to see the Rom players reaction when eventually when their player numbers go back down and they to are relegated to the faction no one likes to talk about.
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# 78
05-20-2013, 05:06 PM
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Battlecruisers are so OP that more people fly BOPs , Raptors or carriers generally . Seriously idk where people come up with this stuff.

Also totally called it.
Cryptic are not going to break 3 years of screwing the targ so to speak. I just can't wait to see the Rom players reaction when eventually when their player numbers go back down and they to are relegated to the faction no one likes to talk about.
Eh the majority of the Romulan crowd is going to be fed players based on this plasmonic leech thing it was the icing on the cake to speak for the power level issue. So like the fed side the romulan side will get whatever they QQ about until they get it.
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# 79
05-20-2013, 05:15 PM
How do they get it?
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# 80
05-20-2013, 05:16 PM
I'm going to point out again that the Klingon's aren't actually losing the PL console. Every time they add one of these cross faction console packs, this comes up, and everyone whines that KDF is "losing" whatever cheese console they had, and that KDF will die when the console is released.
I don't know about everyone, but I don't choose to play a faction based on what fancy consoles they have available. Yeah, sure you are losing the exclusivity of the console, but you still have it, and I'll bet all the players that really know how to employ PL know how to counter it too, so it's not that big of a setback. And nothing is going to kill the KDF, if anything I think we're about to see a population explosion on Qo'noS, now that they are adding a real tutorial and 1-50 content. I for one could never really get seriously into KDF before, and I think it might be worth playing more after tomorrow.
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