Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 201
05-21-2013, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by newromulan1 View Post
I would prefer to get the Aceton - when will than be coming in a lock box?
right, forgot about that one...next box, probably.
"when you're out of Birds of Prey, you're out of ships."

Look into Vanilla PvP if you're tired of the endless pursuit of grind, utterly unbalanced selections of geardo-inspired traits, and generally unbalanced and careless 'development' made mostly to turn this game into a second job.
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# 202
05-21-2013, 06:49 PM
I got some sandpaper if you guys need any tissues.
Captain
Join Date: Apr 2013
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# 203
05-21-2013, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by majesticmsfc View Post
I suggest if you and your buddies don't like how we act to just bugger off to the Fed forums and complain about us over there, You don't see us coming into your forum complaining about you guys now do you?

We have been given the short end of the stick again and instead of enjoying our pain you could at least show some sympathy, isn't the Federation supposed to me kind, understanding and have high morals? I guess a lot of you simply don't understand the vision Gene was trying to convey when he made Star Trek to begin with. A shame it fell on such deaf ears.

I am gald I am not the only one that can see this either, I'll quote Roach from earlier in this thread:
Short end of the stick? Lol, you get all these nice consoles, cloaks & battle cloaks, etc etc, and YOU got the short end of the stick? Some people's children, I guess.....
Anyway, like I said in an earlier post, which no one apparently has seen, to those KDF'ers that enjoy being in that faction, and just enjoy themselves, imagining they're playing in that role, I hope they have a really great time, and get to have some fun, they deserve to. To the whiners & munchkins, in turn, you bugger off.
And "high morals" are one thing, to sit through nonsensical crying, and whining is just not in the cards for me. Man (or woman) up, play the game, and enjoy yourself...who knows, you MIGHT actually find you're having a good time....(the gods forfend)

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Captain
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 706
# 204
05-21-2013, 08:58 PM
I'd like to take a moment to point out that finally the KDF has full storyline content from level one making it a fully fleshed out faction, and instead of being glad that Cryptic finally delivered on their promise and gave the KDF something so much more important than a single console, most KDF players choose to whine and cry about the fact that Cryptic gave the Feds a single console.

You guys who can't stop crying, please don't ever stop. Keep crying and bawling and reminding every reasonable player that you're all spoiled self-entitled children with no sense of real fairness or perspective. Or you guys can quit. I hope you do, because the rest of the playerbase will be far happier to see the backs of you than you will be.
Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
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# 205
05-21-2013, 09:02 PM
*Sigh* I really shouldn't feed the trolls, but:

KDF: It really isn't the end of the world having the Feds get the Plasmonic Leech, even if the console we get in its place is of rather limited use. At least we finally get the 1-50, even if long overdue. Add to that a couple new ships and their consoles, and we do actually get something (though still far short of catching the Federation as far as variety of ship classes or specialized consoles).
Yes, we are getting the short end of the stick in the lock box, but that usually happens with the lock boxes. The KDF is the minority of the playerbase; the queues tell us this, and the behavior of the company reflects it. As a result of the proportionate purchasing power on the Fed side, and the company liking to get their money, the Fed side is far more likely to get what it asks for. Shortsighted if they actually want to maintain the whole 2 faction system, but predictable.

Fed: Really guys? The KDF does have valid concerns considering that there are supposed to be the 2 primary factions, with any new factions being designed as affiliate. Given that the we have had a full 3-pack for each ship class, with the appropriate 3-console sets, plus access to some of the best consoles in the game with little more than in-game currency, faster queues, access to cloaking devices, more missions, more species, better starbases (our greater playerbase and faster queues boost our rate of progression significantly), and usually twice as many Mirror ship variants in the lock boxes... I really think we can just let them voice their concerns in peace without getting into a griefer session.

Community Moderator: Would you mind deleting posts on both side of this that fit the definition of an ad hominem?
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 206
05-21-2013, 10:18 PM
I'm just gonna go out and say it.


The only place feds have ever argued about leech has been these asinine 'omg feds are getting the leech/want the leech/we can't give it to them' threads.

I have not once in my entire tenure in this game, since season 3, seen a thread begging for leech on the fed side. In all that time it's always been KDF players whining about how 'all the feds want it'.

Well now the feds have it. I expect the lack of fed whining about it will continue, but maybe the klinks can finally stfu because gods be damned seriously you guys will not shut up.
Captain
Join Date: Feb 2013
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# 207
05-22-2013, 12:02 AM
So I went to the Exchange and bought a Plasmonic Leech console for about 2.7 million EC, there are already several for sale over there. For my build, this is a great fit since I now have 176 points in Flow Capacitors. Tooltip says my Plasmonic Leech drains 2.8 energy from all subs per activation. In theory, that should give 2.8 X 8 = 22.4 power drain on each subsystem though I am not sure if a cap would apply in my case or not since this is new to us. On my fleet's TS, nobody except me even cares about this console. I made a point of mentioning it, really, no reaction. The truth is very few Fed players utilizes drain skills. It's a niche "market" for a select number of players but a rather small minority based on my casual observation. It is likely more prevalent on the Klink side due to the presence of other energy drain tools such as the soon-to-be-nerfed (hopefully) Aceton Assimilators and siphon drones.

In any event, my vessel is now capable of inflicting up to 109 in power drain on two select subsystems simultaneously using ES3, Subsystem Targetting and PL. Even if my opponents specs heavily in Power Insulation, such massive drain will still cause havoc to the targeted systems, notably engines where escorts typically run no more than 50-70 in power as most is diverted to weapons. Yes, there is the Hazard Emitters but against my build, which uses a variety of weapons that causes very severe Plasma and Radiation damages if not cleared, I expect my opponents' HE will be completely overwhelmed trying to handle the DoT and trying to clear ES attacks one after the other.

Given that I didn't know about Plasmonic Leech until today, I want to thank the OP for starting this thread and educated me and many other Fed players who are part of this niche re: this nice gem that we shall now be using to pound Klingnons in battle.
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# 208
05-22-2013, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by illcadia View Post
I'm just gonna go out and say it.


The only place feds have ever argued about leech has been these asinine 'omg feds are getting the leech/want the leech/we can't give it to them' threads.

I have not once in my entire tenure in this game, since season 3, seen a thread begging for leech on the fed side. In all that time it's always been KDF players whining about how 'all the feds want it'.

Well now the feds have it. I expect the lack of fed whining about it will continue, but maybe the klinks can finally stfu because gods be damned seriously you guys will not shut up.
Remember last time it was mentioned it was "feds with leech and maco shield will be op"?

Honestly, none of my feds are even speced into energy drain. and I cant really think of a console to ditch on favor of leech on most of my fed builds (maybe an rcs on my oddy with the new turn rates but still not speced into it).

Without some flow caps leech does very little.

My klingons use it, one because its a polaron build and one becasue he is under equiped and I had it anyway.

Besides with the battle cloak about to be everywhere the anti cloak torp should become quite handy. Hmmm T'varo + T'varo set consoles + anti cloak torp + honor guard/adapted maco + rule 62 console = cloaked cloak killer.
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# 209 feds get the leech
05-22-2013, 12:33 AM
I guess when universal consoles came out they were faction specific then the whinning started saying its to good you have it , well you have this thats where the problem started now there have lost there uniqueness the had when they first designed them with the best and perfect intentions from the very beginning and it was lost too us all ? imagine pretty soon well all have same thing but certain elite fleet weapons and blue phasers and warp cores up the ying yang being different in 4 systems lol haha well all be having same ships with differ ship setups , it'll be like fighting our selfs lol soon enough, I'm wondering why when i'm klingon in kerat my fellow klingons are federation blue ? huh whats up with that ? its like your trying to slap us klingons smack in the face with ugly, and whats up with the pastel colors all over the place there is no consistent colors , and my power abilities in space you gave em each 2 colors so its a total of 9 pastel gross colors intsead of 2 colors easy to look at before ? my screen looks all femmy like a bowl fruit loops on drugs in a fabric store, what gives ?? my eyesare spazzing out who in there right mind would pick ugly colors for gameplay seems hella cool so far but I'm on my knee's begging you get you ugly spass colors off my red klingon screen i've played with for years and i dontb even wear 1 coilor the same toneas this game new colors or id get my &^%%^ beat and when i saw my own red blood I'd finally be happy again !!
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 210
05-22-2013, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by illcadia View Post
I'm just gonna go out and say it.


The only place feds have ever argued about leech has been these asinine 'omg feds are getting the leech/want the leech/we can't give it to them' threads.

I have not once in my entire tenure in this game, since season 3, seen a thread begging for leech on the fed side. In all that time it's always been KDF players whining about how 'all the feds want it'.

Well now the feds have it. I expect the lack of fed whining about it will continue, but maybe the klinks can finally stfu because gods be damned seriously you guys will not shut up.
There fixed that for you

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