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Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 55
# 1 Agh D'Deridex SUCKS! Lol.
05-25-2013, 10:10 AM
Ouch so I got to level 30 recently and got my new D'Deridex and all, and I did a mission and I noticed a HUGE drop in performance from my Mogai. So bad that im actually going back to my level 20 ship again...

Anyone else feel like this?
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Captain
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 528
# 2
05-25-2013, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by fudgeoflife View Post
Ouch so I got to level 30 recently and got my new D'Deridex and all, and I did a mission and I noticed a HUGE drop in performance from my Mogai. So bad that im actually going back to my level 20 ship again...

Anyone else feel like this?
yeah i agree though mine didn't have a drop in dps just turned slow like a beached whale but at least it can tank like crasy but glad to be on my ha'apex advanced warbird now ^_^
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 126
# 3
05-25-2013, 10:24 AM
In before the post upon post of "but the DD is a HUGE ship!!!1111 It SHOULD turn SLOW!!!111"

Before answering the OP with that sort of reply, go take a look at the Warbird "Escort". Its wider than a Jem Dreadnaught, wider than the Failaxy, DWARFS the Excelsior... and has a base turn rate of... wait for it...

16...

Yeah.... 16....

The DD is basically the romulan's own big waste of hull space.... every race has them, it just hurts the romulans more because the roms have fewer ships.
Commander
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 432
One, the D'Deridex is an Engineer ship meaning it is not supposed to compete on a damage level with the Mogai. Secondly, if you are saying it is weak than you really don't know how to use the ship, it was made quite well, better than the Federation equivalents, so personally I don't see the complaint. Not every ship can be overpowered, as most of the Romulan ships are more powerful than their Federation and Klingon counterparts.
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 24
# 5
05-25-2013, 10:32 AM
D'deridex suxx like hell. I did myself a Tac. The Boff places on D'deridex cant be used with the Skills you trained your boff for using Mogai. Means for usind the D'deridex you have to retrain nearly all of your Boffs. But and thts so "cool" you can buy the Captains Definat for just 80k dilithium rofl. I go 10 lvl in between 5 hours so why the hell should i spend 80k dil for that time. No way. I stay at my Mogai. Even the Rom Va ships one can get are not so usefull. I miss a Ship with a Tac Commander, Tac LT. COm and 4 Tac consoles like on fed or on kdf side. Btw as an "allie" why cant i fly the VA ship of the Fed or the KDF? I can use all other of their ship by paying them with Dilithium
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# 6
05-25-2013, 10:33 AM
D'deridex suxx like hell. I did myself a Rom Tac. The Boff places on D'deridex cant be used with the Skills you trained your boff for using Mogai. Means for using the D'deridex you have to retrain nearly all of your Boffs. But and thats so "cool" you can buy the Captains Definat for just 80k dilithium rofl. I go 10 lvl in between 5 hours so why the hell should i spend 80k dil for that time. No way. I stay at my Mogai. Even the Rom Va ships one can get are not so usefull. I miss a Ship with a Tac Commander, Tac LT. COm and 4 Tac consoles like on fed or on kdf side. Btw as an "allie" why cant i fly the VA ship of the Fed or the KDF? I can use all other of their ship by paying them with Dilithium
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 852
# 7
05-25-2013, 10:35 AM
no, in fact it was far better than the mogai.

when in battle cloak the big bird turns faster and moves faster, close to escort levels.

the Double D was epic.
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Join Date: Apr 2013
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# 8
05-25-2013, 10:36 AM
a while ago bought the sao paulo class captain ship from what was known as the c-store once upon a time, so i claimed a free one from there earlier on in the day, only spent 3 hours with it until sub-a.
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,631
# 9
05-25-2013, 10:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fudgeoflife View Post
Ouch so I got to level 30 recently and got my new D'Deridex and all, and I did a mission and I noticed a HUGE drop in performance from my Mogai. So bad that im actually going back to my level 20 ship again...

Anyone else feel like this?
In a word, no.

Ultimately, you're trying to compare the Mogai and the D'Deridex - but there's a massive difference (literally, the D'Deridex is massive) between them. Firstly, the Mogai is an Escort-Warbird and the D'Deridex is a Battlecruiser. It's not meant for frontal attacks, it's meant for broadsiding. And after all, if you will insist on mounting cannons on it, you can use the cloak to get a monstrous turn speed bonus, plus the attack bonus upon decloaking.

I'm rolling in the D'Deridex retro now and I love it. But it is a cruiser, and the lack of Rom ships during level up is going to introduce players to a different style of play to what they're used to if they've been playing as a Tac before LoR. It's just a learning curve that you have to adapt to for a few levels. You can then go back to an Escort in the form of the Ha'Feh and the Dhelan, Mogai and T'Varo retrofits.

My build for the D'Deridex Retro doesn't include any RCS consoles. The Helmsman Trait is much, much more useful.
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Rihannsu
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 575
# 10
05-25-2013, 10:39 AM
I agree, I were using the zens tore versio and it was only slight beter than deridex so i cans hare the thought, it was just horrible, and after getting to hapax of some kind it still was horrible, no engine power means no turnr ate on alrdy low turning ship, I hate deridex.
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