Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 516
# 11
05-25-2013, 10:43 AM
I've got my fleet D'Deredix now and love it. I got the Tier IV version too and didn't think it was too bad. Sure it's not as nimble as the Mogai/Valdore but you just need to know how to use it and get it to turn properly and have loads of points in impulse thrusters etc.
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Captain
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,008
# 12
05-25-2013, 10:46 AM
The problem with the d'dridex is not its stats but the transition. Both your first two ships have a focus on tactical officers with cannons and fast maneuvering. The D'dridex is a tank with a focus on beams and broadsides. However for a new or returning player the sudden shift in tactics and required bridge officer skills is huge. I think, too huge.

Most new players will slot up their officers and wonder why the ship doesn't work. They won't realize that it turns faster while cloaked, nor will they know how to take advantage of this. All they will know is that the game trained them how to win for 20 levels and then threw a pie in their face, stole all their toys and made everyone in room laugh at them.

Veterans will slot it up just fine and use it. New players and those who don't already know the game inside out get majorly screwed.

It is one of two places in the new romulan content where the Devs screwed up big time. The other being the final mission. Both cases veterans know how to make the best of it, and new players get the shaft.

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Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 13
05-25-2013, 10:55 AM
That's a bit of an exaggeration Gavin....

I fly heavies Fed-side so it wasn't much of a shock for me. It's a lot different from flying a Battlecruiser type ship, but.... managable. Newbies need to learn you to fly heavies some time don't they? :p
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 101
# 14
05-25-2013, 11:06 AM
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Ouch so I got to level 30 recently and got my new D'Deridex and all, and I did a mission and I noticed a HUGE drop in performance from my Mogai. So bad that im actually going back to my level 20 ship again...

Anyone else feel like this?
I went KDF with my Rom and had the Vandal Destroyer for its console. Outside of Defense of New Romulus, it absolutely kicked ass through the commander ranks. (And defense of new romulus just needs to be retuned, because the Eclaire are just overpowered)

Having the D'deribrick be the 4th tier ship was a poor choice when there are no other options. Feds can get away with 4th Tier Galaxy Class because you can just choose the Defiant. Klingons, as always, have the broadest ship variance to choose from.

If you're only going to have one ship per tier, it should really be designed with broad appeal.

Fortunately, leveling is absurdly fast in this game. I went from 40-45 in a single mirror event hour.
Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,322
# 15
05-25-2013, 11:09 AM
I found this out in the closed/open beta. I use the T4 ship of my chosen ally instead

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Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 579
# 16
05-25-2013, 11:14 AM
I applaud those whom make the D'deridex work as a broadsider, but I think they're playing it wrong. This isn't a Starfleet ship; it's a romulan battle cruiser.

I play my D'd with cannons. I engage on my terms, decloak alpha with scatter volley and have my engineering powers like emergency power to weapons and directed energy modulation help make my enemies melt. If I need to turn I have Aux2Dampeners and recloaking which will help me reposition myself. Usually though enemies die before you ever need to turn (tractor beam/repulsor might help with that too).

This isn't a federation spacewhale, stuck maneuvering always with a low turnrate. Between fights, you can easily cloak and maneuver around with ease (which, quality of life-wise, is huge). The D'd works - you just need to think about how to best use it.
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Republic Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 95
# 17
05-25-2013, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by fudgeoflife View Post
Ouch so I got to level 30 recently and got my new D'Deridex and all, and I did a mission and I noticed a HUGE drop in performance from my Mogai. So bad that im actually going back to my level 20 ship again...

Anyone else feel like this?
No, I don't. I find that the D'deridex performs quite well, when someone knows how to fly the damn thing. I'm frankly sick and tired of all the whining and complaining about the D'deridex. You don't like it? Tough. You can go play a Fed ship or KDF ship instead. Don't have the dilithium? Then get a Zen Store ship. You don't have Zen? Then use the Ambassador class from the Temporal Ambassador mission, or the KDF equivalent? Don't want to?

Then quit crying. If you're incapable of learning how to strategize, modify your BOff set up, and figure out what consoles you need to maximize what Cryptic gave you with the D'deridex/D'ridthau Battle cruisers, that's your problem. Not Cryptic's.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 68
# 18
05-25-2013, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by daedalus304 View Post
no, in fact it was far better than the mogai.

when in battle cloak the big bird turns faster and moves faster, close to escort levels.

the Double D was epic.
This.

If you suck, the Big D will suck.

If you're worth the space on the server you're taking up, the Big D is a freaking juggernaut.
Same with the Ha'apax (though I wish it would have a LtCom Tac slot, but I can live without it).

That's all there is to it.
Republic Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 95
# 19
05-25-2013, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by umaeko View Post
I applaud those whom make the D'deridex work as a broadsider, but I think they're playing it wrong. This isn't a Starfleet ship; it's a romulan battle cruiser.

I play my D'd with cannons. I engage on my terms, decloak alpha with scatter volley and have my engineering powers like emergency power to weapons and directed energy modulation help make my enemies melt. If I need to turn I have Aux2Dampeners and recloaking which will help me reposition myself. Usually though enemies die before you ever need to turn (tractor beam/repulsor might help with that too).

This isn't a federation spacewhale, stuck maneuvering always with a low turnrate. Between fights, you can easily cloak and maneuver around with ease (which, quality of life-wise, is huge). The D'd works - you just need to think about how to best use it.
^ - This. And what Kregor said as well. This is how I fly my D'deridex as well.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 98
# 20
05-25-2013, 11:37 AM
Still, one would think that the double D would turn faster than an Odyssey. More than the turn rate though, I wasn't thrilled by the BOff layout.
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