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# 21
05-25-2013, 12:45 PM
I called mine "Makes Wide Turns".

Tempting to play an allied ship until 40, but I can tough it out a few more levels.
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# 22
05-25-2013, 12:56 PM
I kinda have to disagree with the OP. Yeah, it sucks if you try to just laser evrything. but even as a newbie with little access to any other options , I refitted the damned thing with omnidirectional lasers and mines and concentrated on simply absorbing damage between cloaks.

Built in such a way, the D'Dex I've found to be very reliable.

hell, debating making it my main ship after I retrofit it.
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# 23
05-25-2013, 01:05 PM
How to make the D'D work? Use the ****** cloak.

Let me give you an example. I just did One of the elachi missions on eilte where there was a tone of them hitting this space station (forget the name right now, sorry) I didn't die once (well technically I did but it was because of a ship detonation which critted. Ouch) Mind you it took AAAGES because I had rather stupidly decided to ditch my cannons before that, too used to broadsiding with my galaxy, but I figured out how to fight in the D'D pretty fast

You have to realize that the ship needs an RCS console. you can get a decent blue one from "The price of neutrality" Replayed that? Good. Ok now you want to fly in like a Mogai and go Dakka dakka? Sorry, you are playing with the big boys now. Use that cloak button. Pressed it? Amazing, you suddenly are turning like a Mogai!

So you hit one of the enemy, hit the cloak, fly behind him and spin on a dime to face his back, decloak and hit him, And then cloak again once the 15 sec cooldown is up, rinse, repeat, add your favorite singularity power when you decloak as well for extra fun. The nice thing about decloaking and hitting him? Your weapons do extra damage for 3-5 seconds when you decloak, AND you are able to feed him a nice plasma torpedo for the bargain. Sure, you cant use your healing powers when you are cloaked, With the exception of the cloak provided by the quantum shadows power and the Phase cloak of the c-store D'D, but you have a nice large crew to polish the bumps and bruises while cloaked. And even with standard beams the D'D does a lot of damage with the cloak bonus.

The Elachi are an npc race and should have ridiculous abilities, but you have tricks of your own. If you dont use them then you deserve to have your lungs handed to you. It's always fun when the game forces you to use your head. The Mogai arguably didn't really need the cloak but the Cloak is definitely part of the D'D fighting style.

You are a Romulan. SneakysneakyBOOM!

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# 24
05-25-2013, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by revalah View Post
How to make the D'D work? Use the ****** cloak.

You are a Romulan. SneakysneakyBOOM!
LOL Noted.

I cant resist my old school setup of a torp in front and back and beams for the rest. Can I still succeed with that setup too? Im anti canons unless Ive got a quick turning ship. Ive already decided the Double D will be my end game Romulan ship.
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# 25
05-25-2013, 01:44 PM
id love to see everyone who sais its fine go into pvp with this thing. see just how well that use battle cloak for turning works out for you. other players will actually react to that, unlike npcs, who will basically hold still for you
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# 26
05-25-2013, 01:51 PM
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Ouch so I got to level 30 recently and got my new D'Deridex and all, and I did a mission and I noticed a HUGE drop in performance from my Mogai. So bad that im actually going back to my level 20 ship again...

Anyone else feel like this?
Couldn't agree more. The current D'Deridex is horrendous and UNACCEPTABLE!

I did some balancing of my own and some research on the game's itemization budget for ship setups, and this is the ONLY ACCEPTABLE SETUP that the D'Deridex can have (imo):

Tier:5

Type: Warbird Battlecruiser

Hull: 34,500

Standard Shields:5,225 (Mk X)

Shield Modifier:1

Weapons: 4 fore 3 aft

Can equip dual cannons.

Crew: 50

Bridge Officers:

Commander Tactical, Lt. Commander Tactical, Ensign Engineering, Lt. Universal, Lt. Universal

Device Slots:2

Consoles: 5 Tactiacl 4 Engineering 1 Science

Turn Rate:20

Impulse Modifier:0.22

Inertia rating:70

Bonus Power:+15 weapons power

ANYTHING ELSE IS UNACCEPTABLE! I've crunched the numbers. I've looked at the other ships in the game. And the layout I present here is the only layout that works for the D'Deridex.

It's also cannon. If you watch Sacrifice of Angels or really ANY of DS9's last season, you'll see the D'Deridex PWNing the heck out of the combined forces of the Cardassians and the Dominion. Which is why the above setup is the ONLY setup that can work for the most iconic, most awesomest, most bestest, most popularity Romulan ship ever created.

Thoughts?
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# 27
05-25-2013, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
id love to see everyone who sais its fine go into pvp with this thing. see just how well that use battle cloak for turning works out for you. other players will actually react to that, unlike npcs, who will basically hold still for you
What ships do you currently PvP with?
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# 28
05-25-2013, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by snoggymack22 View Post
Couldn't agree more. The current D'Deridex is horrendous and UNACCEPTABLE!

I did some balancing of my own and some research on the game's itemization budget for ship setups, and this is the ONLY ACCEPTABLE SETUP that the D'Deridex can have (imo):

Tier:5

Type: Warbird Battlecruiser

Hull: 34,500

Standard Shields:5,225 (Mk X)

Shield Modifier:1

Weapons: 4 fore 3 aft

Can equip dual cannons.

Crew: 50

Bridge Officers:

Commander Tactical, Lt. Commander Tactical, Ensign Engineering, Lt. Universal, Lt. Universal

Device Slots:2

Consoles: 5 Tactiacl 4 Engineering 1 Science

Turn Rate:20

Impulse Modifier:0.22

Inertia rating:70

Bonus Power:+15 weapons power

ANYTHING ELSE IS UNACCEPTABLE! I've crunched the numbers. I've looked at the other ships in the game. And the layout I present here is the only layout that works for the D'Deridex.

It's also cannon. If you watch Sacrifice of Angels or really ANY of DS9's last season, you'll see the D'Deridex PWNing the heck out of the combined forces of the Cardassians and the Dominion. Which is why the above setup is the ONLY setup that can work for the most iconic, most awesomest, most bestest, most popularity Romulan ship ever created.

Thoughts?
ya you are thinking of the D'Deri as a escort not a battle cruiser almost everything about those stats are just wrong and better suited to a raider class ship the D'Deri is huge and honestly if a fun challenge to master and if i am hearing right one of the best ships the romulans have at their disposal its retrofit is a swiss army knife of BOFF slotting and the turning it negated by the cloak as another person said "sneakysneaky boom" thats how the romulans are not these kinda stats maybe the T'Varo if you were lucky would have had these stats but not the D'deri.
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# 29
05-25-2013, 02:09 PM
God forbid someone flies something besides their pew pew fast turning turret ships, contrary to popular belief there are other types of ships out there as well and they don't innately suck just because they aren't escorts or someone can't fly them.
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# 30
05-25-2013, 02:20 PM
I figure fly it like the NPC romulans: beams and torp spread, fore and aft

It should have been made a tier-5 ship, but then they would have had to come up with another one for tier-4
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