Career Officer
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 225
# 1 Whats The Point In A Cloak Now
06-02-2013, 03:28 PM
everything in pvp now seems to drop you out of your cloak and now its even worse with the epta bug they can see you cloaked 10km away, get it fixed Cryptic or bloody pass this game to a company that knows what they are doing.
There should be ONE!!!! special skill that can drop a cloaked ships cloak not bloody 4 or 5, sort this crap out cos im sick to death of getting shafted by this company over and over, rant over
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 911
# 2
06-02-2013, 03:48 PM
Yes, yes, let's make it so cloaks are an unbreakable shield of invincibility, and only people running that one- and let's make it a C-store console priced at a million bucks- skill can bypass it, and if they don't have it, then you're completely invincible.

Right?

No, screw that- and screw you. Yes, EPtAux is bugged. But they're fixing it. Cloaks are and always have been fragile- you take damage in cloak, or fly into a plasma cloud or do something stupid and it'll decloak. But make no mistake, that's your fault.
Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 364
# 3
06-02-2013, 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by retrosrages View Post
everything in pvp now seems to drop you out of your cloak and now its even worse with the epta bug they can see you cloaked 10km away, get it fixed Cryptic or bloody pass this game to a company that knows what they are doing.
There should be ONE!!!! special skill that can drop a cloaked ships cloak not bloody 4 or 5, sort this crap out cos im sick to death of getting shafted by this company over and over, rant over
is this a "i quit" thread?
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,233
# 4
06-02-2013, 04:37 PM
What do you mean, "now?"

Cloak has always been rather "meh." I have never, ever had a ship cloak on me and even broke a sweat. I've very rarely ever had my cloak actually save me. It occasionally gives me a bit of an alpha strike, but most often the time spent trying to set up the stealth run is better spent just flying in and pumping death into my enemy.

I haven't bothered with a Romulan yet, and I haven't flown a B'Rel, but standard cloak and battle cloak are less then stellar. If you are just noticing that now... I'm sorry.

Edit: Unless it's Donatra... Bloody hell she is annoying...
I once again match my character. Behold the power of PINK!

Vice Admiral Space Orphidian Possiblities Wizard
Career Officer
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 225
# 5
06-02-2013, 06:17 PM
photonic shock wave, grav well, any gas type, epta, and sometime you don't even see the gas till your in it, with a brel your main line of defence is your cloak so yes I want it to work right, there should be ONE SKILL AND ONE ALONE that can decloak a ship not 4 or 5, and illcadia you mad bro?

Last edited by retrosrages; 06-02-2013 at 06:20 PM.
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,097
# 6
06-02-2013, 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by illcadia View Post
Yes, yes, let's make it so cloaks are an unbreakable shield of invincibility, and only people running that one- and let's make it a C-store console priced at a million bucks- skill can bypass it, and if they don't have it, then you're completely invincible.

Right?

No, screw that- and screw you. Yes, EPtAux is bugged. But they're fixing it. Cloaks are and always have been fragile- you take damage in cloak, or fly into a plasma cloud or do something stupid and it'll decloak. But make no mistake, that's your fault.
They caught the EPTA bug in Tribble, it made it to Holodeck anyway, and it complies to the demands of vocal minority of Fed players to nerf cloak, ergo...

I don't expect a fix any time soon.


as for the rest...


You're right in that the quantity of skills/powers to break a cloak are about right as they are (minus the bug in EPTA, which is probably going to be handled as a 'feature' soon. I don't have a lot of faith that they'll fix the math error since it gives an advantage to the Fed side of the ledger), flying a Cloaker is a skill, not an "I win button" and it should never be turned into an "I win" or "Easy" button.

In the meantime, take a chill, relax, go grab some sunlight and come back when you're not so easily riled, people ask for things they shouldn't get all the time, it's no big deal unless they start GETTING things they shouldn't get.
"when you're out of Birds of Prey, you're out of ships."

Look into Vanilla PvP if you're tired of the endless pursuit of grind, utterly unbalanced selections of geardo-inspired traits, and generally unbalanced and careless 'development' made mostly to turn this game into a second job.
Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,416
# 7
06-02-2013, 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by retrosrages View Post
photonic shock wave, grav well, any gas type, epta, and sometime you don't even see the gas till your in it, with a brel your main line of defence is your cloak so yes I want it to work right, there should be ONE SKILL AND ONE ALONE that can decloak a ship not 4 or 5, and illcadia you mad bro?
HAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

thats so funny.

what happens then if noone on the other team brings that "one" decloak ability? if the team without it screwed?


yep. totally fair right there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mancom View Post
Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
Do you even Science Bro?
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,097
# 8
06-02-2013, 07:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by maicake716 View Post
HAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

thats so funny.

what happens then if noone on the other team brings that "one" decloak ability? if the team without it screwed?


yep. totally fair right there.
How many BoFFs do you have after you hit L50? I'll bet you've got a lot. More than you can possibly load onto the ship at any given time. How hard is it to have someone standing by in reserve in case you need one of those abilities? Not hard, one swap and now you've got it.

Hell, you can do it at lower levels too, and if you didn't pull one in the draw, you can always spend the EC and retrain 'em so you HAVE those abilities when you show up to PUG.

It's called being prepared-and if you refuse to be prepared, log into a PUG match, and nobody's got one? well...them's hte breaks. Bridge Officer abilities are among the EASIER things to change up before, or during a match. It's a hell of a lot tougher to change your (for a BoP very, very low) hull and shield numbers to become viable in stand-and-deliver shot trading, or increase the number of guns you have on the fly, etc. etc.

Flat being, if you're going to PUG pvp, you should have the flexibility to change a Bridge officer to fill a gap-esp. where you KNOW you're going to be facing at least one, if not more, Cloakers.
"when you're out of Birds of Prey, you're out of ships."

Look into Vanilla PvP if you're tired of the endless pursuit of grind, utterly unbalanced selections of geardo-inspired traits, and generally unbalanced and careless 'development' made mostly to turn this game into a second job.
Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,097
# 9
06-02-2013, 08:35 PM
Having multiple ways to disable cloak is fine and good. You can learn to pilot around almost every one of the anti cloak skills. It should be a challenge to sneak around.

What you really can't do anything about is escorts and especialy the other teams cloaked ships running EPTA and seeing you 40k away. lol

Honestly until EPTA is fixed just go and level and gear your roms, if by the time you have that done Cryptic hasn't sorted it Rift goes F2P in a week or 2. lol
When the messenger comes to appropriate your profits ... kill the messenger.
Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,416
# 10
06-02-2013, 08:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickngo View Post
How many BoFFs do you have after you hit L50? I'll bet you've got a lot. More than you can possibly load onto the ship at any given time. How hard is it to have someone standing by in reserve in case you need one of those abilities? Not hard, one swap and now you've got it.

Hell, you can do it at lower levels too, and if you didn't pull one in the draw, you can always spend the EC and retrain 'em so you HAVE those abilities when you show up to PUG.

It's called being prepared-and if you refuse to be prepared, log into a PUG match, and nobody's got one? well...them's hte breaks. Bridge Officer abilities are among the EASIER things to change up before, or during a match. It's a hell of a lot tougher to change your (for a BoP very, very low) hull and shield numbers to become viable in stand-and-deliver shot trading, or increase the number of guns you have on the fly, etc. etc.

Flat being, if you're going to PUG pvp, you should have the flexibility to change a Bridge officer to fill a gap-esp. where you KNOW you're going to be facing at least one, if not more, Cloakers.
so basically youre telling me to learn to play, learn to adapt, be prepared for everything right?

shouldnt that also apply to the guy who is cloaking?
Quote:
Originally Posted by mancom View Post
Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
Do you even Science Bro?
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:43 PM.