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# 1 Continuum (spoilers)
06-06-2013, 01:00 PM
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I've just completed the 1st season of Continuum via Netflix, and am eagerly awaiting a friend sending me a steady stream of 2nd season recordings.

I have questions I'm hoping other fans can answer. Hopefully by only using first season info, but I'll not get mad if it has to be explained by the full series to this point. You might wish to post additional spoilers on 2nd season material, though.

At what point was Theseus first mention and how was it defined (assuming it has completely been defined by now)? I must have stepped out of the room when it happened, because at some point I saw the teen start reflecting on the name and going to get a tattoo. Then liber8 started mentioning Theseus. It's clear by season end that Theseus is at least one man, but some things the Liber8 leadership said also make me wonder if 1) it is a pseudonym of more than one man, 2) it is an event, 3) it is an organization or at least a coordinated effort.

I'm also wondering why that particular Greek hero's name was picked. I've not seen anything in the first season that suggest a maze or minotaur, unless tiptoeing around the hazards of the time line is considered a maze.
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# 2
06-06-2013, 04:08 PM
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I've just completed the 1st season of Continuum via Netflix, and am eagerly awaiting a friend sending me a steady stream of 2nd season recordings.

I have questions I'm hoping other fans can answer. Hopefully by only using first season info, but I'll not get mad if it has to be explained by the full series to this point. You might wish to post additional spoilers on 2nd season material, though.

At what point was Theseus first mention and how was it defined (assuming it has completely been defined by now)? I must have stepped out of the room when it happened, because at some point I saw the teen start reflecting on the name and going to get a tattoo. Then liber8 started mentioning Theseus. It's clear by season end that Theseus is at least one man, but some things the Liber8 leadership said also make me wonder if 1) it is a pseudonym of more than one man, 2) it is an event, 3) it is an organization or at least a coordinated effort.

I'm also wondering why that particular Greek hero's name was picked. I've not seen anything in the first season that suggest a maze or minotaur, unless tiptoeing around the hazards of the time line is considered a maze.
"Theseus" could refer to Kagame, or to Alec's step-brother whatisname, or to some plan or event one or both of them are involved with or will be involved with in the future. It's still not clear, like most of the rest of this show, what they're up to with that one.

And I don't mean that in the sense of "oooh it's a mystery" but "wtf are these writers on?" - one episode it plays out as a straight-up "'murrikuns gunna stup terrism hooah!" pro-police pro-corporatist polemic(I know it's set in Canada but that's the tone), the next it presents Liber8 as a complex group with noble aims but questionable methods, the one after they're moustache-twirling silent movie villains threatening babies and arranging assassinations. I want to like it, I do, and I keep tuning in to give it a chance, but they just can't seem to settle in to a consistent tone and theme, and the way they point-blank refuse to resolve any of the existing mysteries before tossing in several new ones is beginning to irritate me in the same way LOST did before I stopped watching that.

As to "why Theseus?", I suspect it's some pretentious script writer's attempt to be clever, as given the premise of the show it appears to refer to the Four-Dimensionalist resolution of the Theseus Paradox.

I will say this though, when they give her a decent script to work with, Rachel Nichols actually seems to have quite a good range to her performance - S2E05 plays on the "lost son" thing quite well. Also, she was just about the only good thing in JJ-Trek'09.
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# 3
06-06-2013, 07:23 PM
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# 4
06-06-2013, 08:46 PM
If the main villains are changing so much, then it could be their past catching up to them. If the hero changes something in the past, then that would affect the villain's past which could change their motivations. It is the whole Marty McFly fading in the past due to his mother falling in love with him scenario. Most other stories about time travel have the time traveller isolated from changes to their past except for the obvious grandfather paradox.

Have only watched the first episode so haven't seen the characters changing to confirm it.

Last edited by starkaos; 06-06-2013 at 08:49 PM.
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# 5
06-06-2013, 10:26 PM
Starkaos, as season 1 progresses they do provide some interesting twists and turns with all characters, good and bad.

I'm glad to know I didn't miss exactly what Theseus is onscreen. I was not aware of the Theseus Paradox by name, though I'd often thought about the concept, most notably with my computer, which I build in 1997 and have been replacing components ever since. I went out to Wikipedia and had a good read. Thanks for pointing that out, sosolidshoe! It does make sense in the series context.

It has been stated outside the show that the production team has come up with a precise pattern of how time and time travel work in their little universe, and will be gradually unveiling that pattern. Within the universe the characters are confused, quoting oft-used sci-fi concepts of time travel in an unsuccessful effort (currently) to piece together what effects time travel will have.
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