Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,232
# 141
06-08-2013, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by aetam1 View Post
I don't think that they have really more players because of the reputation as it is. Also they could easily make money by changing it.
Like make a special T5 project that gives you an account bound token. With said token you can start a special xp project that gives you 100k rep xp. So you would have an account bound rep system without having to change much. Further the token project could be expensive, like 20k dilithium. That would mean each new character costs you 60k dilithium if you want all 3 reputations at maximum. And you still need marks to get the rep gear.
Or the could sell a token in the cstore or something. There would be plenty of ways for them to make money out of an account bound system.
^^ This

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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 231
# 142
06-09-2013, 01:57 PM
I'm all in favor of the rep system being a faction wide account unlock, I'll grind the stuff for gear, even to unlock gear, but trying to grind all this over the 15 toons I have is a bit annoying.
Ensign
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 9
# 143
06-09-2013, 03:53 PM
I've been away from the game for nearly a year. I don't object to the addition of a rep grind system. But the one that cryptic has come up with is really cumbersome and unnecessarily grindy. Throw in materials to grind the repl. Cap out each level and then throw in more materials to unlock that tier. Then more materials to unlock each piece of gear or special thing that you want from the store. Do that for each reputation you want to use. Its not really about the amount of time per character but the fact that the system is cumbersome, grindy and really not all that fun or interesting, but more annoying. Is that really want you want in your play experiance, an annoying cumbersome reputation system? making the reputation account bound would be a good way to make it less annoying but ultimately I think that a better reputation system shouold be developed and put into place.
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# 144
06-11-2013, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rezking View Post
Well, I'm complaining dammit.

Things were going great, STF-wise...then the Season 7 Rep system happened.
They could have left the STF stuff alone, seeing how (supposedly) so many players loathed doing them to get the Borg/KHG/MACO/Omega sets.
But noooooooo...we all get stuck with the Rep system.
So after the shock wore off, months later, I decide to go ahead and tackle the Rep because much like herpes and justin bieber this thing isn't going away.

Then, like being kicked in the groin by the girl you pissed off then challenged to a fight you ultimately lose, I find out that you have to do this same damn thing for ALL the characters I enjoy playing.

So am I doing that?
Hell no.
1-2 max...and it's starting to get real boring real fast.
I think I actually play less, now.

CRYPTIC, MAKE THE REP SYSTEM UNLOCKS ACCOUNT WIDE.
OR BETTER YET GIVE US OUR PRE-SEASON 7 STF SYSTEM BACK.


This mad smiley is for letting this "Rep" insanity continue ---> <---


i couldn't agree more the rep system definatly sucks i have 3 toon on one account and i know for shure once i have the rep completed on 1 i wont bother with the rest 20 hours to complete each job for rep just isn't worth the pay out in the end makeing it account wide would help but lowering the 20 hour timers would be alot better as it is it's way to boring to even consider reping multiple toons and way to costly
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2012
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# 145
06-12-2013, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wolf3130 View Post
i couldn't agree more the rep system definatly sucks i have 3 toon on one account and i know for shure once i have the rep completed on 1 i wont bother with the rest 20 hours to complete each job for rep just isn't worth the pay out in the end makeing it account wide would help but lowering the 20 hour timers would be alot better as it is it's way to boring to even consider reping multiple toons and way to costly
That is the consensus so far. Majority won't bother with reputation system once they are done with it on their main.

One has to be clinically insane to even attempt at hitting V in all 3 reputations on 4 , 8 or 15 alts.

Honestly, this reputation system is a very poorly thought out . What Cryptic failed to realize that is that it is the alts which keeps player in game long term. By binding top tier gear with rep system and then forcing players to grind it on all their alts is just bad ..bad..bad!
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Lieutenant
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# 146
06-12-2013, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by daan2006 View Post
very much this I all ready got it up to level 3 or 4 and I only every really play one toon now I got to start all over again with that not to say all the EC I put in to it
i have a fed engi with MK XI and XII omega gear on and honestly i have no intentions on ever reping him up to finnish his build i also have a romie engi they im currently working on romie rep for as it goes yes in a couple days you can reach tier 2 after that it slows down drasticly with the 20 hour wait time for each job making it a very slow and boring process im starting to wander if getting the MK XII romie gear is even worth the grind
Lieutenant
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# 147
06-12-2013, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzzika View Post
Here is the issue with making it a one time progression.

Whats the point of even playing the alt if your not doing something with it? Oh bam, I am level fifty. And look, I have my gear because Uncle Sugar went and did the grind for me. Oh I know, I'll do stf's for kicks with friends. Oh wait, after a few weeks of stomping the Borg to death I am bored. Lets play something else.

PWE or Cryptic, what ever you want to call it would be stupid to dumb the game down any further than it already has been.
i see you would rather them dumb it up and make it to boring for people to play think about what your saying if people quit playing because of the rep system monotany and uber bordom factor not to mention the ec and dilli cost what will you have to do there wont be any one to run stf's with or any other pve action and there wont be any pvp the majorady of players with 4 or more alt's are what keep sto runing after all no server can run with out it's players any one who thinks other wise is a fool
Lt. Commander
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# 148
06-13-2013, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by fuzzzika View Post
Here is the issue with making it a one time progression.

Whats the point of even playing the alt if your not doing something with it? Oh bam, I am level fifty. And look, I have my gear because Uncle Sugar went and did the grind for me. Oh I know, I'll do stf's for kicks with friends. Oh wait, after a few weeks of stomping the Borg to death I am bored. Lets play something else.

PWE or Cryptic, what ever you want to call it would be stupid to dumb the game down any further than it already has been.
This post is hilarious. Who knew grinding same thing over and over again for months to hit 300K rep on all your 12 alts is considered to be an intelligent game design. Because obviously if they tried to change this horrible system it would be dumbing down the game.

I am sure you don't even know what the term 'dumbing down' means. You just read it on internet and thought it would be cool to just throw it around randomly.
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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 149
06-13-2013, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kaltoum View Post
This post is hilarious. Who knew grinding same thing over and over again for months to hit 300K rep on all your 12 alts is considered to be an intelligent game design. Because obviously if they tried to change this horrible system it would be dumbing down the game.

I am sure you don't even know what the term 'dumbing down' means. You just read it on internet and thought it would be cool to just throw it around randomly.
well there is truth to it tho. if you finished up the grind, you dont rly have an incentive to run it again.

with the old system of stfs you basically had to grind really long if you were unlucky, not to get the elite gear, and after that you still had to grind for weapons, and stuff. but in the end you could get loads of EC too

the solution to that system wouldabeen simply to add data chip prices for purple gear, but that ofc would not have meant a huge grind with dilithium and timesinks so the game would have better stats on paper :S

speaking of the old system, I still have my conversion box
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 138
# 150
06-13-2013, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ferdzso0 View Post
well there is truth to it tho. if you finished up the grind, you dont rly have an incentive to run it again.

with the old system of stfs you basically had to grind really long if you were unlucky, not to get the elite gear, and after that you still had to grind for weapons, and stuff. but in the end you could get loads of EC too

the solution to that system wouldabeen simply to add data chip prices for purple gear, but that ofc would not have meant a huge grind with dilithium and timesinks so the game would have better stats on paper :S

speaking of the old system, I still have my conversion box
Incentives means nothing if the path to get there is simply mind numbingly boring.

Who here can honestly tell me that they enjoyed doing missions on New Romulan for the 20th time? how many times you can enter warehouse and face Madarin and his goons? how many times you can tag bunnies on daily basis before you want to smash your face in with a hot frying pan?

To say that fixing this horrible system of repetition and making game a bit more alt friendly would somehow dumb down the game further is just nonsense.

People underestimate the importance of alts and how many players stay in game for years because of it. Currently because of rep system game discourages players to roll alts because they know moment they hit 50 they will have to yet again grind 300K reputation to be competitive.
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