Ensign
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 7
# 161
06-13-2013, 08:11 PM
As a recent purchaser of a LTS, I think it is worth every penny. Between the stipend plus, as said above, just a little bit of dilithium zen and you can buy the outfit packs.
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 4
# 162
06-13-2013, 08:30 PM
what's the point in adding more info about promotional deals and say nothing about the fact the servers have been down for almost 2 hours without any explanation.
Ensign
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3
# 163
06-13-2013, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tdawg65 View Post
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I had considered getting a lifetime sub to but I won't waste that kind of money with all the bugs and crap they still have going on. I mean seriously, it got old real quick real fast. Let the kool-aide drinkers insult me. Don't give a rat's ass one way or another. But I do care about getting booted whenever some jackass can't pick his or her feet up over a damn cord. When we can actually get through 2-4 weeks of not having been kicked off the game then I will reconsider getting a lifetime sub. But until then, I'll just keep getting the occasional stuff from the Zen Store.
That's the way it is. If I heard that the LTS get unlimited uptime, or a private server while the lower class f2p trash play on the outdated, diesel-powered rigs; well it might be worth it. A little bit of pointless info to make your heart bleed - been the most awful kind of day at work, a particularly craptastic crap storm of crap. Look forward to playing this silly game all day, get home...and surprise! the server is down...again... and no explanation or projected uptime. Sat around, read some, watched some tv, come back to check and still there is nothing. Also, for the record snickering is the word that got censored out of my post, only I spelled it the British way I guess and it had to letter "g's" instead of the "ck" my bad....
Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
# 164 lts
06-13-2013, 08:59 PM
LTS not serving me now. Hope they bring the server backup soon.
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 21
# 165
06-13-2013, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nonamesleft5 View Post
..... while the lower class f2p trash play on the outdated, diesel-powered rigs;....
'lower class f2p trash'?........Seriously?!?!?

Please tell me you were being sarcastic with this comment. Being able to shell out $300 to play this game does not entitle anyone to be that much of an elitist.

Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 147
# 166
06-13-2013, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyjohnny1969 View Post
'lower class f2p trash'?........Seriously?!?!?

Please tell me you were being sarcastic with this comment. Being able to shell out $300 to play this game does not entitle anyone to be that much of an elitist.

Is it that surprising people feel this way?

Before F2P , STF's were not that bad, fleets were stable, and the C-store was not the center of the game.

A lot of people who played since launch and subscribed or bought LTS's felt very cheated by the F2P move, especially given the repeated statements by Cryptic that the game would never go F2P.

Since F2P there's been alot of additional players, but zone chat is a nightmare, and STF's are full of people who refuse to listen or take advice.

Having spent money for the LTS and a great deal more in the C-store, it becomes .. amusing .. when someone who has played for a couple of months and hasn't spent a dime on the game somehow feels they should be treated the same as I.

They shouldn't. A player who is F2P but spends $10 or $15 bucks in the c-store every few months is the same as me. A subscriber is the same as me. The guy who blows $500 in the cstore every month is the same as me.

But the players who don't spend any money on the game? Sorry, I could honestly care less what they think, since they aren't helping anything get done and are usually the source of the most griefers and people who won't listen.

I'm very sorry if the truth makes you feel I'm being 'elitist'. I'm not suggesting you aren't a subscriber or that you fall into any of the categories above. But the honest truth is F2P players have zero reason to be complaining about downtimes and those who pay money to play have a right to feel frustrated about being cheated out of it by incompetence.
Ensign
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3
# 167
06-13-2013, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyjohnny1969 View Post
'lower class f2p trash'?........Seriously?!?!?

Please tell me you were being sarcastic with this comment. Being able to shell out $300 to play this game does not entitle anyone to be that much of an elitist.

I was continuing a conversation from the previous page that started with a post saying why I would *not* become a LTS.
Yes, I was being sarcastic, apologies for not making that clear.

*I AM* f2p "trash" that's the impression I get. There is no counter keeping track of just how much Zen I have purchased - if there were then perhaps I would have eventually been on subscriber level.
Also...$300?!? holy frak! Never! I'd have to have 100% uptime ALL OF THE TIME to even consider that....even then that's a bit of a stretch.
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 21
# 168
06-13-2013, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by savnoka View Post
Is it that surprising people feel this way?

Before F2P , STF's were not that bad, fleets were stable, and the C-store was not the center of the game.

A lot of people who played since launch and subscribed or bought LTS's felt very cheated by the F2P move, especially given the repeated statements by Cryptic that the game would never go F2P.

Since F2P there's been alot of additional players, but zone chat is a nightmare, and STF's are full of people who refuse to listen or take advice.

Having spent money for the LTS and a great deal more in the C-store, it becomes .. amusing .. when someone who has played for a couple of months and hasn't spent a dime on the game somehow feels they should be treated the same as I.

They shouldn't. A player who is F2P but spends $10 or $15 bucks in the c-store every few months is the same as me. A subscriber is the same as me. The guy who blows $500 in the cstore every month is the same as me.

But the players who don't spend any money on the game? Sorry, I could honestly care less what they think, since they aren't helping anything get done and are usually the source of the most griefers and people who won't listen.

I'm very sorry if the truth makes you feel I'm being 'elitist'. I'm not suggesting you aren't a subscriber or that you fall into any of the categories above. But the honest truth is F2P players have zero reason to be complaining about downtimes and those who pay money to play have a right to feel frustrated about being cheated out of it by incompetence.

I can see your point. I just don't think it warrants petty name calling.


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Originally Posted by nonamesleft5 View Post
I was continuing a conversation from the previous page that started with a post saying why I would *not* become a LTS.
Yes, I was being sarcastic, apologies for not making that clear.

*I AM* f2p "trash" that's the impression I get. There is no counter keeping track of just how much Zen I have purchased - if there were then perhaps I would have eventually been on subscriber level.
Also...$300?!? holy frak! Never! I'd have to have 100% uptime ALL OF THE TIME to even consider that....even then that's a bit of a stretch.
Ok. I thought I detected a note of sarcasm, but wasn't sure. Up until a couple days ago I was 'f2p trash'...but spent at least $20 per month on Zen (damn those lockbox keys). I did become a 'Gold' subscriber as of Monday though (damn that larger inventory and account bank)

Career Officer
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 622
# 169
06-13-2013, 11:23 PM
In the very beginning of the game, a Lifetime Sub was an act of faith - no one knew how the game would turn out or if it had staying power. However there were still those that purchased LTS back then. I was more conservative and paid for a recurring 6-month subscription.

Flash forward ~2 yrs to PWE and the advent of F2P. After about 3 months into F2P I cancel my 6-month recurring sub and enjoy the freebie life for a while.

So, for all the smug "Gold" people that might have looked down on me during the months I was F2P, I in fact have paid more then they to play this game.

Morals of the story:
  • Don't assume everyone who is "Silver"/F2P has not paid their dues.
  • Don't assume you have spent more than someone else.
Former PWE Community Team Lead
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 9,046
# 170
06-14-2013, 07:47 AM
Lifetime subscriptions are on sale for only a short while longer, until June 21st, 2013 at 10AM PDT!

Cheers,

Brandon =/\=
Brandon "BranFlakes" Felczer | Former Community Team Lead for Perfect World Entertainment
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