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# 221
07-02-2013, 11:04 AM
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Mother of all weapons? Well, okay - it's good; probably great. But in quite a few scenario's the ship will be a cloud of Thalaron radiation, having exploded during the 12 seconds it takes for the uber weapon the charge.

The drawback of a 'charge' weapon is that NOTHING else is liable to sit around and wait for it to fire at them.
Agreed. It is a deadly weapon to stationary or considerably slowed targets who can't get out of the weapon arc in time. This was always the case in the Romulan DSE's.

But that's besides the point though to folks worried about the weapon being used (or not, as the case may be) by the Romulan Republic.
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# 222
07-02-2013, 11:16 AM
O_O are you serious? This is so OP I don't know where to start.
We might as well all re-roll Romie, cause nothing is competing with this. 5/3? +40 all Power?
U-LtC? Come on.
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# 223
07-02-2013, 11:29 AM
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O_O are you serious? This is so OP I don't know where to start.
We might as well all re-roll Romie, cause nothing is competing with this. 5/3? +40 all Power?
U-LtC? Come on.
And in less then a week, we'll have threads with the title of:

"I Paid 5000 Zen For a Half-Assed Rom Scimitar 3-Pack That KDF And Feds Pop Like a Balloon? WTF Cryptic?"

and

"Why Is My Scimitar Always The First Ship Focus Fired On In PVP Matches"

and

"Why Do Scimitar VS Scimitar Matches Take So Long To Finish?"

and finally:

The Scimitar is Overpriced For What You Get -- Needs a Buff"

(and to be fair, the "Nerf the Scimitar" threads will continue too.)
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# 224 WellWell
07-02-2013, 12:19 PM
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It should also be noted that D'Tan probably had no say in their construction. I bet Obisek built them without asking for anyone's approval. This is after all a Reman design.
Obisek gave up the use of Thalaron Weapons as well. He never wanted to use them in the 1st place, he just wanted to free his ppl from the Tal Shiar.

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They're explicitly described as Republic warships. If the sole leader of a group has no say in the construction of his own fleet...you've got problems.
Ha.. This is very tru. It's sorta like a super power saying no Nukes then giving them to a 3rd world country & saying hey have fun, blow shyt up, end the world

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# 225
07-02-2013, 12:23 PM
First off, really great ship + new designs It's like the movie version, but fairly suited for the game.

Second, WHY are people comparing this thing to the Galaxy? The Scimitar fought against the SOVEREIGN (specifically the Enterprise-E itself, the flagship of the fleet) and more-or-less kicked it's ass. The Scimitar was huge, yet not as slow as you'd think; just watch the movie, it could could move quite a bit in motion. Though admittedly, when forcing itself to move from a standstill, it couldn't nearly do the same.

The in-game Sovereign has a turn rate of 7, and this thing is that ship's proverbial archnemesis. So it seems reasonable when put into that context, imo.
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# 226
07-02-2013, 01:18 PM
Id like to know why it got a +2 turn rate bonus for conolse set when Odyssey only got a 0.5 bonus.
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# 227
07-02-2013, 01:24 PM
5 forward weapons. So where's the 5 weapon ship for KDF? Everyone else has them.
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# 228
07-02-2013, 01:31 PM
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5 forward weapons. So where's the 5 weapon ship for KDF? Everyone else has them.
Romulans are part of the kdf faction
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# 229
07-02-2013, 01:55 PM
just made a short video - Scimitar Thalaron Pulse http://youtu.be/4-UekYBmyWA
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# 230
07-02-2013, 02:27 PM
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Simple answer: because the Romulan Star Empire was more advanced and just generally so much cooler before their homeworld blew up than either of those two other factions. Even after decades of war neither the Federation nor the KDF can match their "pinnacle" of shipbuilding.
The Odyssey/Bortas'qu are new ships, fresh off the drawing board, and supposed to be the most advanced yet. The base Scimitar itself is at least 40 years old already.

And straight out the door the Odyssey was already outclassed by the 60-year-old Ambassador and the Even-Older Excelsior.

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Mother of all weapons? Well, okay - it's good; probably great. But in quite a few scenario's the ship will be a cloud of Thalaron radiation, having exploded during the 12 seconds it takes for the uber weapon the charge.

The drawback of a 'charge' weapon is that NOTHING else is liable to sit around and wait for it to fire at them.
Then you know even less about how to play this game than the people you call "n00bs". Stop shooting so you don't draw aggro, then let your team hold the target in your sights. Since Friendly Fire doesn't exist in this game, they won't be in any danger when your Thalaron fires. Also, your Secondary Shields will outlast the charge time.

This ship is OP regardless of how you try to justify it.

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